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#1 OFFLINE   mraub

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 10:23 AM

Does anyone know if this can be done and how. I just bought a One-For-All learning remote and it will not learn from the 921 remote. I called One-For-All's tech support and they told me that the RF transmission fouls up the IR learning. Why this is so is a mystery to me since IR and the RF bands used by the remote don't seem even close to each other on the spectrum chart. Whatever the reason, the One-For-All won't learn from the 921 remote and if RF is the problem then disabling it ought to solve the problem.

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#2 OFFLINE   n0qcu

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 10:38 AM

The 921 remote in sat mode is UHF only, it does not and can not transmit IR in sat mode, All you can do at this time is either use the 921 remote or buy TV1 remote for a 522. Thats the IR only remote. Or you can wait, one of the future software upgrades may have a teach remote feature that will use the IR blaster of the 921 to send the IR of the button you press to teach a learning remote. If you know someone with a 811 you could use their teach remote mode.
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 11:07 AM

Does anyone know if this can be done and how. I just bought a One-For-All learning remote and it will not learn from the 921 remote. I called One-For-All's tech support and they told me that the RF transmission fouls up the IR learning. Why this is so is a mystery to me since IR and the RF bands used by the remote don't seem even close to each other on the spectrum chart. Whatever the reason, the One-For-All won't learn from the 921 remote and if RF is the problem then disabling it ought to solve the problem.

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Mike,
The 921 remote transmits via UHF and IR to the 921 receiver. It transmits IR only to other devices. I currently have a SIMA SUR-20 Learning Universal Remote. It learns via IR signal. It had no problem learning from my 921 remote.
Maybe your just not doing something right with the programming sequence.
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 11:35 AM

Mike-

Did you happen to purchase a version of the remote that has JP1 capability? If you're not sure, check out this page http://www.hifi-remote.com/ofa/ and you'll see what I mean. If you are just a little computer saavy, you can make a One for All remote do some really cool things. And you're in luck, because I've already make a complete button map of the 921 for the One-For-All, you just need to get the information from your computer to the remote.
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 11:42 AM

If you can borrow a 501/510 remote from somebody for a few minutes, maybe your local dealer, you can program the universal with it. You'll only be missing the PIP.
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 11:43 AM

If you don't need PiP, a 50x remote will control the 921 via IR. It has no UHF. I assume it can be used to "teach" another remote.

EDIT: :D Jim beat me to the "post" button. :)
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Posted 02 September 2004 - 12:16 PM

To correct Eagles statement - the 921 remote does NOT transmit IR satellite commands to the 921, but only RF commands. It will transmit IR commands to any of your other components, but NOT to the 921.

The next version of the 921 software may have the "Teach Remote" feature available.
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#8 OFFLINE   TBarclay

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 03:19 PM

A 721 remote has all the features you need with IR commands. I got one when I bought my 921 and used it to teach my Sony AV-3000. I also use the 721 to control the TV while sitting here at my computer desk so it wasn't a total waste of money.

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 03:40 PM

Ummm. Has anyone ever asked this question before?

WHY disable IR emissions from the 921 for native functions. They've already got the unit emitting the signals for non-921 devices. WHY exclude it in the first place?
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#10 OFFLINE   TBarclay

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 05:19 PM

THAT is a good question!

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 05:34 PM

Why don't they make a universal remote that does both IR and UHF?

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 05:52 PM

Thanks for all the advice. I also have an 811, so that may solve my immediate problem. I noticed the 6 contacts (no pins in my model) when I installed the batteries but had no idea you could do so much with them. My next project when I find some time for playing with toys.

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 06:15 PM

The UHF Pro remotes use a different code set than the old IR/UHF remotes so they can not transmit both RF and IR at the same time.
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#14 OFFLINE   SimpleSimon

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Posted 02 September 2004 - 06:48 PM

I think the reason it doesn't transmit both at the same time is that you'd get double-hits for each button press. ;)
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Posted 03 September 2004 - 01:01 AM

The best part about the JP1 remote is how cheap it is. A fun project that even the wife won't mind! Please feel free to PM me if you get into a jam, but I have posted my 921 keymap on the JP1 Yahoo group, so you can always download it from there. Good Luck.

SS- Doesn't the 508 remote transmit both at the same time?
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