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Got FOXHD today but...


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#26 OFFLINE   explosivo

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:26 PM

It's over.. I guess Ereek didn't know what the hell was going on. The slugfest is over and I lost, I'm battered and bruised no success. Please stop the pain? Anyone?

I hate this crap. He is basically telling me that when we do get FOXHD full-time I won't be able to see Football cause of this same reason. That Blows! That's if we get FOX-HD full-time during the football season. I guess I will get ST for half the season if they offer it. Which brings me to another question, How about regular FOX programming on HD?

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#27 OFFLINE   Zach2

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:41 PM

I'm getting not available in my area?! WHY!

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:43 PM

the game is only available to people in a fox owned market

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Posted 13 October 2004 - 07:58 PM

Read through this ever growing thread on AVS forum.
http://www.avsforum....threadid=457622
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 09:00 AM

San Francisco is not an Owned and Operated station. KTVU is owned by cox.
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:41 PM

I live 60 miles west of DC. It worked last night. I must say that I was not overly impressed with the picture. It was not the vast improvement over SD that I have seen in football, hockey or basketball.

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 01:26 PM

I live 60 miles west of DC. It worked last night. I must say that I was not overly impressed with the picture. It was not the vast improvement over SD that I have seen in football, hockey or basketball.

that sums up HD in general for me. sure the picture looks a little nicer. is it worth the thousands spent to be an early adopter when there's virtually no content and the content that is there takes acts of congress to actually receive? for me my answer was "no".

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 03:27 PM

that sums up HD in general for me. sure the picture looks a little nicer. is it worth the thousands spent to be an early adopter when there's virtually no content and the content that is there takes acts of congress to actually receive? for me my answer was "no".


People keep talking about no HD content. It definitely applies to people who are in rural areas without OTA or Sat access to HD, but I record the following:

Monday - 2.5 hours
Tuesday - 2 hours
Wednesday - 4.5 hours
Thursday - 2.5 hours
Friday - 3 hours

That's 14.5 hours of Network HD (just to be clear - CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, UPN, WB) a week. There is only a total of 2.5 hours of additional Network programming I watch per week that is not HD. For me, that's a lot of content and well worth the investment.


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Posted 14 October 2004 - 05:22 PM

No waivers for FOXHD or CBSHD being given down here either.

I understand if there is no sensible answer to this question but I have to ask: if all they're showing is the game in HD, then why block the channel? :nono2:

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 06:44 PM

It seems that DNS subs are getting the game tonight, but didn't last night.
See this thread on AVS.
http://www.avsforum....threadid=457754
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Posted 14 October 2004 - 07:02 PM

We are getting the game in HD (picture on 88 & 89).

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Posted 14 October 2004 - 10:22 PM

I understand if there is no sensible answer to this question but I have to ask: if all they're showing is the game in HD, then why block the channel? :nono2:


Because they want you to watch your local commercials as opposed to the New York and L.A. commercials. In order to sell local advertising the locals need to be able to say that the only way you can watch the game is by watching their channel.

This unfortunately means that if you live in a area that is to far away from your local to get the HD feed and your local is being a jerk about waivers then you are screwed.

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Posted 15 October 2004 - 05:28 AM

Picture quality was vastly improved last night.....

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 03:31 PM

People keep talking about no HD content. It definitely applies to people who are in rural areas without OTA or Sat access to HD, but I record the following:

Monday - 2.5 hours
Tuesday - 2 hours
Wednesday - 4.5 hours
Thursday - 2.5 hours
Friday - 3 hours

That's 14.5 hours of Network HD (just to be clear - CBS, NBC, ABC, FOX, UPN, WB) a week. There is only a total of 2.5 hours of additional Network programming I watch per week that is not HD. For me, that's a lot of content and well worth the investment.


I said "virtually" no content. If those 14 hours of TV were ONLY broadcast in HD then yeah I could see how it could START to be worth the money, but they are not. I imagine that since all those shows are on the major networks that some of them are just up-converted, and others that aren't are also broadcast in regular SD at the same time. The shows I watch are rarely in HD and the ones that are are mostly just up-converted stuff that looks the same as it would on a nice SD set. I don't find that being able to see the makeup flaking on the face of the lawyer on Law and Order: SVU that compelling of a reason for me to adopt HDTV. Sure the picture is nice, but it's not so nice that it makes SD unwatchable for me. Then on top of that there is the wife factor. How am I going to justify $700 for a 32" TV that will have a slightly better picture than our $300 set. on top of that, to keep the same level of functionality I have with my DirecTV DVR with Tivo I have to plunk down another $1000 for a new DVR? and an extra $10 on the bill per month for some HD channels? Oh and we'll need a new entertainment system since the TV is wider (note I love the fact that things are moving to a wider screen. that's not a complaint. just an added expense). Totally not worth it.

I love soccer and when I lived in minnesota I got the Explorer 8000HD (a digital cable box with DVR built in and HD reception) I was able to watch HD channels on an SDTV. I got it specifically for the purpose of getting HDNet because they showed some american soccer games exclusively. I loved having access to those games, but the rest of the channel was just unwatchable crap, not because of the picture quality, just because the content was so lacking. None of the current HD channels grab me enough to actually upgrade. Voom's WorldSport HD comes close, but all the soccer they show on there is also available in SD as well and I have access to them.

I can't be the only one that's tired of HDTV. I'll jump on the bandwagon when prices come down to where SD sets are at right now, but until then I won't bother.

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 04:57 PM

Virtually no content? And he records 15 hours a week? I would guess I record 10+ hours a week. Maybe you watch a ton a TV... but for me 10-15 hours a week is enough, plenty, substantial, a fair amount... but is certaintly not "virtually no content."

And yes, it is expensive. But TV's were expensive 40 years ago too. For me, a house is expensive. So, to make the room of the house where I spend the most awake hours to be pleasant by spending 1% of the house, I don't mind the cost-- especially when you move/ need to rebuild your system from the ground up/ replace old/broken equiptment. But to buy a new Tv for $500 instead if $1000 or $2000.. A TV, that you spend 10 hours a week with for the next 5 years.. It is not a hard decision for me.

But of course there are other things you can spend the money on... but being a member of dbstalk.. I would think this would be a higher priority.

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Posted 18 October 2004 - 06:29 PM

it's just that we watch different things I guess. I don't watch much network TV. Too many commercials and reality shows. I guess I could fast forward through the commericials but then i'd have to do that with my $1000 HD directivo instead of my $79 SD directivo.

I would rather have ESPN Deportes and GolTV added to the lineup instead of things like Fox HD which most people in the united states will never be able to see anyway (waivers, etc...) not to mention the fact that this channel is a black screen unless Fox is airing something in HD and right now, that's only football and baseball games. There are far more people in the target market for ESPN Deportes and GolTV than Fox HD.




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