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#1 OFFLINE   rocatman

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 01:56 PM

Here it is, hot off the presses all 460 pages. Enjoy the read.

Adobe Acrobat: http://hraunfoss.fcc...FCC-05-24A1.pdf
Word: http://hraunfoss.fcc...FCC-05-24A1.doc

Added: Here is the press release from the FCC:
Adobe Acrobat: http://hraunfoss.fcc...OC-256592A1.pdf
Word: http://hraunfoss.fcc...OC-256592A1.doc
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 02:13 PM

is this list that sat companyes are supposed to use if they offer sig viewed?
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 02:35 PM

Here it is, hot off the presses all 460 pages. Enjoy the read.


http://hraunfoss.fcc...FCC-05-24A1.pdf


I started reading but it's very long and full of the usual legal bable. Hope some of you can give us a better understanding of it soon.

One thing I did see (I think) is something to the effect that they want satellite carriers to go ahead and start using the list.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 02:52 PM

NOTE: skip to page 38 for the start of the signficantly viewed stations by county. :)

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 03:01 PM

I find it interesting that they include stations already in the market for many of the counties. My county shows four stations, but I already receive all four of those stations in the locals package. They could have saved a lot of space in the report by saying "no significantly viewed stations in this county". :(

My mother, who is on the border with Memphis and Greenwood-Greenville, MS, could receive the following:

CBS3, NBC5, and FOX13 from Memphis
ABC6 from Greenwood (once available on sat)

She would be tickled pink to receive the Memphis stations. :)

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 03:06 PM

arent they supposed to mirror cable sig viewed?
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 03:08 PM

I think I will wait for the Cliff Notes.:lol:

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 03:13 PM

not necessarily...I think the rules are a little different.

I noticed that our new FOX station in Vicksburg/Jackson, MS is not listed on any county list in MS. The ABC affiliate in Tupelo-Columbus (online in 2001) is not listed either. This list is probably NOT complete.

I suspect that as public feedback arrives, this list will be modified. They used a 1972 list and then added new stations coming on line since then. Many of the stations in 1972 are broadcasting at higher power or have taller towers today (which means greater coverage).

IMHO, this was a "thrown together" list to meet the deadline. They probably allow for feedback. If cable carries an SV station in your county not on the list, send the FCC feedback.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 03:36 PM

a little confused , so are they going to go by county? because where I live in JEFFERSON COUNTY ,THEIR IS 2 CABLE CO. ONE CARRIES ST.LOUIS PLUS MY LOCALS (PADUCAH,KY.) AND THE OTHER ONE DOES NOT! AND THE CUT OFF FROM ONE TO THE OTHER IS ABOUT A MILE. I REALLY HOPE ITS BY COUNTY?? THANKS FOR ANY INFO !

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 03:50 PM

I note the WHME 46 (LeSea South Bend) is NOT significantly viewed in its own county, but has been added to the SigView list in Elkhart, Fulton and Noble Counties. Only two of the South Bend stations make it into neighboring LaPorte county (NBC and CBS) while the FOX and independent with similar coverage contours didn't make the cut.

BTW: Make sure you check the end of the state list. Some cities get more than their counties.

Well, at least we have some more FACTS to deal with. :D

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 04:03 PM

No FOX affiliate for my county but do show one for a neighboring county. Very frustrating!

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 04:10 PM

this is not accurate not at all i know of cumberland counties in nj that have both ny and phili stations . ocean countys as well and southern monmouth county . so this list is not only flawed but dam wrong . by the way doea anybody have the list for sig viewed that cable uses
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 04:48 PM

It is important to remember that if a station is reasonably new and in your DMA, there is no reason to list it as a significantly viewed station in your county. It may not qualify as significantly viewed outside your DMA and therefore not be listed at all.

Also, this list was started in 1972(which predates DMA classification) and is THE list.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 04:50 PM

none of my stations are new except for upn 57
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 04:56 PM

Five stations for my county. Two of them I would like to have.
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 04:58 PM

This is DEFINATELY not accurate - our NBC station is not listed - even in the county where its transmitter tower is !
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:04 PM

and i bet the people who made this list make more monay then we do
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:10 PM

Of course, there is the possibillity the cable company has a waiver because its headend serves more than one county. There are many reasons that the list might not look correct.

Remember, a tv station does not have to have significantly viewed status if it is in your DMA and already provided by your provider.

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Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:12 PM

You can file comments at http://www.fcc.gov/cgb/ecfs/ (read the instructions). Be sure to refer to MB Docket No. 05-49. Also, once posted, the comments will be available for public viewing.

There is also a Express Filing system, but since this was released today, it's not on the list yet.
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Posted 07 February 2005 - 05:26 PM

This is DEFINATELY not accurate - our NBC station is not listed - even in the county where its transmitter tower is !

How are the ratings for that station?

As JohnH noted, this is THE LIST. Please, before you fill the FCC comments box with pleas for "corrections" read the rules on how the list is made and how the corrections are to be made. Most likely the stations "missing" don't have trouble getting on cable in the counties they are missing from and it is a non-harmful oversight.

Also as JohnH noted, a station does not have to be on "the list" to be carried in its own DMA. So if that is your "correction" please avoid comment.

What the FCC really needs is opinions on what THEY have written - for example where options are given or you believe their interpretation of the law isn't right. Remember they do have their own lawyers for interpretation and the big players will keep the FCC to the law.

And if you feel driven to speak out, remember that the deadline for comments is two months away. Relax ... take a breath ... and get all your comments in one well written public letter. Help the FCC.

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