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The Official July 8 Charlie Chat Discussion thread


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#26 OFFLINE   John Corn

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Posted 05 July 2002 - 06:41 AM

:lol: :rolling: :rotfl: I just got done reading STXJims post.....now this......:lol: , you guys are cracking me up. Are you guys still drinking and smoking from yesterday? :lol:
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Posted 05 July 2002 - 06:55 AM

You saved me a lot of time. I can go out Monday night.
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Posted 05 July 2002 - 03:15 PM

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Media Mills - Great recap. Are you prescient or what?

Cool avatar too. What is it? :confused:

It's the molecular configuration of Prozac...my favorite office tranquilizer! :bang:
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#29 OFFLINE   MarkA

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 10:19 AM

WHEN WILL THEY FIX THE DISHPLAYER?!?!?! Now that's a question that they need to answer!

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 12:22 PM

Originally posted by Chris Blount
Yeah I wondered that myself. It's such a pain having to write a check every month. Maybe they could have some way to do it by credit card. :D

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Two ways to pay bill....log on to dishnetwork.com and apply for auto payment by credit card....you may opt for one-time-only or every month. You still receive hard copy bill each month, and have plenty of time to challenge any charges before they are processed. OR you can call their 800 number and opt for credit card pay by using the automated phone system.

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 12:37 PM

Originally posted by MediaMills
Let's see if we can answer some questions early...

Welcome to the Charlie Chat!! We would report on some worthless news and show you some crappy videos but we wanted to get to news on the merger...write your congressman!!




Yes, use Credit Card AutoPay. Sure we sometimes over bill or skip your payment causing you to default but who cares, it's only your credit rating. Now here's some merger news...




We don't have the bandwidth to do that right now, so support the merger! Besides, that would make sense and we're against that.




We just drop-shipped you a 721 and you want internet access? Call AOL and stop whining. Besides, after the merger is approved, we're going to buy AOL, but don't tell anyone!




Who's Thomson? A special-interest group?




After the merger...roll the clip!!!




Dr. Pepper makes computer hardware now?




How many times do you want? We'll contact Arthur Andersen...




That configuration is not supported. We recommend you use Pay-Per-View because it provides us a better profit margin. DVD is a fad and won't be around long...like DirecTV. Speaking of that, support the merger!




Ask the Tech-Chat. Besides what does that have to do with the merger?




That would take up more bandwidth that we don't have. We need to lauch EchoStar 8 and oh yea, the merger. Jim, roll the merger propaganda tape...




It's free with a $94 subscription to Discovery HD. More HD channels will become available after the merger.


Well, we are out of time. Don't forget to tune in to another extremely boring mind-numbing episode of the Charlie Chat!!!



#32 OFFLINE   Doug E

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 12:38 PM

Wow! Being very negative here. If not a happy camper, why not go back to the dark-age BUD C band?

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 12:49 PM

Well Charlie has been pro merger for like the last year now adn he has been neglecting the Dish Customers
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#34 OFFLINE   Jacob S

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 12:51 PM

They even have a similar service that Primestar used to have in which you use a Primestar sized dish that is oval that is skewed like a dish 500 with two lnbf's picking up two satelites slots at the same time with a switch and it is a medium power satelite and gets most of the channels and I hear its cheaper than cable or Dish and Direct but not sure about the pricing. I know the hardware is a lot more expensive though. Its what Charter cable service uses in the Charter Everywhere service and they are getting VERY popular where I live because they dont have to pay any upfront costs, just for programming. Its called WSNET and I think they have another name for it too, like HITS or something like that, not sure. It is not C-band but Ku band like Primestar used and they probably use digicypher.

There's your alternative to Dish, DirecTv, and even C-band if you dont want to rotate a dish and dont want a big dish yet dont want the small dish service.

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 04:33 PM

Originally posted by Doug E
Wow! Being very negative here. If not a happy camper, why not go back to the dark-age BUD C band?

Nope, not negative. I want the merger. With a national pricing plan that would compete with cable, I would benefit with either more channels or better picture quality. The latter would be preferable... :D
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#36 OFFLINE   Jacob S

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Posted 06 July 2002 - 09:28 PM

Why dont they also mention the service I had mentioned above as also being competition along with c-band, and cable?

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 02:37 PM

Hi all!

Back from the shores of North Carolina and ready for the Charlie Chat! But just like last month, the summary will come around midnight monday night. I have to shoot my own live call-in show at 8pm on an evil cable access channel! :-)

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 03:43 PM

I just want to know when DiscoveryHD will truly be up on 148.
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Posted 07 July 2002 - 03:45 PM

Originally posted by TNGTony
Hi all!

Back from the shores of North Carolina and ready for the Charlie Chat!

Welcome back Tony! Hope you had a great time.

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 08:04 PM

Originally posted by Jacob S
They even have a similar service that Primestar used to have in which you use a Primestar sized dish that is oval that is skewed like a dish 500 with two lnbf's picking up two satelites slots at the same time with a switch and it is a medium power satelite and gets most of the channels and I hear its cheaper than cable or Dish and Direct but not sure about the pricing. .... Its called WSNET and I think they have another name for it too, like HITS or something like that, not sure. It is not C-band but Ku band like Primestar used and they probably use digicypher.


HITS is a service that AT&T provides to Cable companies to add digital programming to their lineups. HITS=Headend In The Sky. HITS carries mostly digital tier programming (Discovery multiplex, FOX Sports multiplex, HBO/Cinemax/SHO/Starz multiplex, PPV, etc.) for cable companies to add to their system without putting in digital encoders for themselves. HITS was designed for SUPPLEMENTAL & SPECIAL INTEREST programming for cable. Their programming comes from KU band on Galaxy 4R and C-Band on Satcom C4.

WS/NET is sort of a quasi-competitor/quasi-friend of HITS. They have a lineup which almost mirrors DISH or Directv. They also parter with cable companies as their service can be put on a Cable TV system. The Cable company just puts on their local broadcast stations and they use the digital WSNET programming for everything else. WSNET's programming comes from Telstar 5 and Galaxy 4R.

Now, HITS and WS/NET are sort of in bed together with a service called HITS2HOME and WSNET Unwired. This is a service where the cable company puts a sattelite dish on your house for digital programming and their analog cable system gives you the local broadcast stations.

Both HITS and WSNET also have offerings to apartment complex owners and hotels, etc. where they can set up a mini-cable system inside their building.

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Posted 07 July 2002 - 08:52 PM

Where can I find out the prices for these services?

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 07:18 AM

kelliot people at AVSforum have been calling Dish Network and have been told that Discovery HD will be available at 148 within 2 weeks.

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 10:02 AM

Re: Discovery at 148 - I want to hear it from Charlie that that is going to be the case tonight. And I want to know *when* exactly. I'm sure not going to call and start paying for a channel that I can't get yet. Of course, I have my 3rd dish ready to go up if D-HD doesn't come to 148...
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Posted 08 July 2002 - 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Jacob S
Where can I find out the prices for these services?


Well--AFAIK these services are only available to Cable companies, apartment owners, etc. They aren't sold to the general public. You might try looking at WS/NET's website though, they do sell a product "programming and all". HITS is simply a transport provider.

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 01:00 PM

Originally posted by Mark Lamutt
Re: Discovery at 148 - I want to hear it from Charlie that that is going to be the case tonight. And I want to know *when* exactly.

Let's say Charlie gives an exact date. Based on his past performance in such matters, why would you believe him? :shrug:
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Posted 08 July 2002 - 02:51 PM

As usual, All sub for the 5000 and OpenTV for the 6000, bring back the 4900 or make the 501 $199 permantly. Like any of this would really happen. Charlie does not listen to the general public or his subs anymore, just overpayed marketing people that poll specific groups that will result in the answer they want to hear and push to E*.
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Posted 08 July 2002 - 06:39 PM

Forget about the 721, future of Dishplayer support, or even the launching of Echostar VI... I just wanna know what great movies will be on pay per view this month!!!

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 08:17 PM

So far the nebulous we don't know what we will do when we switch all E* HDTV subs to the new PSK format. Thumb screws come to mind. A great selling point for retailers forced to tell potential subs that they may actually have to pay another $50+ if they purchase a 6000 receivier.
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Posted 08 July 2002 - 08:50 PM

The best part of the Charlie Chat was the screwup over the price of the HD adaptor module for the 6000... so they had to offer it at $49 instead of $99.

The funny thing about the 721 contest was that the correct answer of the size of the hard drive WAS NOT in the video shown (yes, I reviewed the tape a couple of times to be sure). The only statement made was that it would hold over 90 hours of programming, and Charlie's rambling about GB's and MHz. So I guess the winner must have done his research on the Internet!

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Posted 08 July 2002 - 09:04 PM

Sorry folks...no Charlie summary this month! I forgot to record it at 9 and there is no replay at 11! Doh!!! So I take it nothing big happened?

See ya
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