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921 to get OpenTV by the end of 2005


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Poll: Will Dish deliver on OpenTV with the 921 by the end of 2005? (131 member(s) have cast votes)

Will Dish deliver on OpenTV with the 921 by the end of 2005?

  1. Yes - I believe! (20 votes [15.27%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.27%

  2. No - Its as likely as Name based recording. (111 votes [84.73%])

    Percentage of vote: 84.73%

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#41 OFFLINE   Jason Kragt

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 05:12 PM

All of a sudden, the 942 is starting to look good.....

Dish is already telling retailers to prepare for the 942 being discontinued.

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#42 OFFLINE   invaliduser88

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 08:07 PM

Another promise broken for the 921...

#43 OFFLINE   DonLandis

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 10:48 PM

Just a little friendly advice, move on. I moved on 3-4 months ago by selling my 921 and buying a 942.


Me too, last summer when I cancelled all my E* except for VOOM and moved to D* with the HR 10-250 with twin outboard swappable hard drives!

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Posted 22 December 2005 - 11:06 PM

If you guys have held out this long with the 921, wait another 1-2 months before junking it. :)

Don, are you just showing off with your dual outboards? :) Sounds like an interesting setup. I'd like to have a removable HD for my 942. But that's a wasteful archiving vehicle, economically speaking. $4 per hour of video?

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 08:51 AM

Note- OT rebuttal: Mods may delete if inappropriate here-



Long term temporary archive, not permanent. I still use DVHS tape for permanent. But I really don't archive anymore, too much good stuff on DVD rental to occupy my time and DVD has gotten so much better quality today. My main content source today is not DBS timeshifted eventhough I never watch anything real time anymore, It's BlockBuster's Movie Pass at @ $20 a month for all I can watch. I bought one DVD in the last 9 months. Starwars III, to complete my collection.
Fact is, while I do have the ability to swap out 2 pairs of hard drives on the HDTIVO at 77Hrs each. I find that a single pair works well enough to cycle my timshifting. I rarely save anything long term. The current drive set has been in place now since February. I keep my original drive as backup. The first set has the Sopranos series on it in HD so when the final season comes on, I'll most likely put those back in and "archive" Sopranos.

Cost?
DVHS Tape was $2.12 per hour archival on SVHS tape in DVHS mode, $5.55 on actual DVHS tape
921 $500 for 22hrs = $22.73 per hour
HDTIVO $ $449 for 77 hrs $5.83 per hour

Since the DVHS tape and the WeakKnees hard drives are removable storage media, I cost them by themselves. The 921 I priced by itself as I have not yet tested the swappable drive system on it yet. In effect, that would be a venture into the debatable illegal use world since E* says it does not sanction swappable drives. TIVO, by contrast supports the swappable drives by Weakknees so it is a legal upgrade licensed as a 3rd party retrofit. However, if we figure all technical options regardless of legality arguments then the 921 would cost in at $135/22 = or, $6.14 per hour. (Note- that the 921 technical solution for hard drive swap allows for exact match hard drive to replace the existing one and hacked imaging process (YOYO) and I just priced one as $135 for a 250G Maxtor.

So, gpflepsen, what do you opffer that is more economical than "$4 per hour" archiving otherthan DVHS ?

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Posted 30 December 2005 - 11:37 PM

One more day.
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 09:48 PM

One more hour.
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 10:54 PM

Just a few more minutes.
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 10:57 PM

Not on the west coast. ;)
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 10:59 PM

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Posted 31 December 2005 - 11:30 PM

Well fortunately it looks like we're lucky and not getting OpenTV on the 921. They need to get them working 100% before they add crap like OpenTV.
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 11:42 PM

Could show up in the next 18 minutes....

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 09:01 AM

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 09:17 AM

I kinda want it, so I can get the mosaic channel which I'm SURE will be active for the Olympics again......
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#55 OFFLINE   Jason Kragt

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 12:49 PM

Okay, time for me to cast my vote!

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Posted 12 January 2006 - 11:39 PM

On the August 2005 tech forum tonight, Renee Darby said that the 921 would get OpenTV support by the end of the year. Its in beta now I think she said.




i work there and i dont even know what opentv is... does that answer ur question

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Posted 17 January 2006 - 02:04 PM

I'm using a 942 now and have seen this "OpenTV". My impression--it is pure crap.

You can run OpenTV by pressing the Dish Home button, but there are other things that make it pop up. For example, if you click on the program of an unsubscribed channel, a "Customer Service" application pops up asking you if you want to subscribe to that channel. The problem is that it takes over a minute for the program to load and exiting the application takes several additional clicks and about two more minutes. So in other words, if you click on the wrong button, it takes over three minutes to recover and begin watching TV again. That's hardly what I would call "customer service".

I have yet to find even one useful application under Dish Home.

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Posted 14 February 2006 - 08:36 AM

New answer from Tech Forum last night!

Q: When will the 921 support the Mosaic feature (ie Open TV)

Dish Answer: Spend $99 on upgrading to the 622 in April.
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