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Dish Multicam College Football (Merged)


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#1 OFFLINE   mwgiii

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Posted 30 August 2005 - 08:54 PM

Dish has just announced a really cool interactive application:

"8/30/2005: 1750 TBS College Football Extra Multicam
Each Saturday, starting on 9/3 through 11/5, the new dish home (ch 100) will offer the TBS College Football Extra game available in multicam. Dish home will be pre-empted during the schedule times with a 6 screen multicam mosaic of college football. The 6 screens will be different camera angles of the same game. This will only be available for the TBS College Football game each Saturday, and will not be available for any other college football game, such as ESPN GamePlan, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox Sports Regional, or any NFL game. The audio (from ch 139) will be the same for each of the 6 video windows.

All of the current functionality of the new dish home will be available during the TBS multicam. An OpenTV enabled receiver and subscription to at least the AT60 programming package is required to view the TBS feeds. "

Source: http://rweb.echostar.../TechDepo.shtml




I know I have seen Dish Home is coming for the 921, but will it be in time to use this cool app. (I can't believe I just said a Dish Home app is cool, twice)

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#2 OFFLINE   dishbacker

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 06:14 AM

Rock on! This sounds awesome! Lets get Open TV on the 921!
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#3 OFFLINE   BobMurdoch

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 07:55 AM

Another "flagship" receiver gets treated like an old diesel sub......

It's not good when my $200 PVR can outdo my $1000 PVR.
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#4 OFFLINE   mwgiii

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 08:21 AM

Mark has mentioned that Open TV is coming for the 921. He even mentioned it was in the beta software version he is using.

That is why I put it here. To see when we might get it.

#5 OFFLINE   Darkman

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 08:58 AM

Good news!

and now the thread in the more appropriate section of the forum, so more people can find out about this upcoming Multi camera football thingy :D

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Posted 31 August 2005 - 10:40 AM

So, if your receiver doesn't have Open TV, will we still be able to tune to the mulitcam individually? If so I wonder what the channels numbers will be?
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Posted 31 August 2005 - 11:29 AM

So, if your receiver doesn't have Open TV, will we still be able to tune to the mulitcam individually? If so I wonder what the channels numbers will be?

No Open TV = no mosaics. Although with this TBS mosaic there is no need to do audio switching, so they could put it up on a channel all by itself.

The mosaics are one channel linked off to the individual channels when you choose one for full screen. I didn't see a zoom in function mentioned - this may be just six screens of video. Six screens of video would take a lot of space on the satellite.

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Posted 01 September 2005 - 03:04 PM

They are doing somethig like that now with the newschanels. Bloomberg, ch 203 is available on my top-120 activated receiver. Supposedly it and MSNBC is also available on top-60 accounts because of this mosaic. That is why I asked the question will the individual screens (not the entire mosaic, which of course requires an Open TV enabled receiver) of TBS (other than the main TBS feed) be viewable.
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Posted 01 September 2005 - 03:45 PM

I suppose we will all find out together on Saturday ...
I'm expecting a single channel - no zoom.

Our resident feed expert JohnH hasn't reported six unknown channels warming up.

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 02:44 PM

Channels 473-477 have the answer. You only need 5, since TBS itself makes the first. :D

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Posted 02 September 2005 - 07:52 PM

Channels 473-477 have the answer. You only need 5, since TBS itself makes the first. :D

Thanks.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 01:49 AM

So, if your receiver doesn't have Open TV, will we still be able to tune to the mulitcam individually? If so I wonder what the channels numbers will be?

It would NOT be necessary to have 5-6 channels for this feature. If it's asembled at the uplink end, it's only one.
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Posted 03 September 2005 - 02:24 AM

my reciver went back to the old dish channel 100, what the heck happend.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 03:44 AM

It would NOT be necessary to have 5-6 channels for this feature. If it's asembled at the uplink end, it's only one.



The composite is assembled at the uplink, but the feature which allows you to select any one of the six windows for fullscreen viewing requires the 6 individual channels.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 04:37 AM

my reciver went back to the old dish channel 100, what the heck happend.


And my 322 has never changed in the DISH home. :confused:

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 10:22 AM

The composite is assembled at the uplink, but the feature which allows you to select any one of the six windows for fullscreen viewing requires the 6 individual channels.

And as noted, the special camera angles are in the EPG on the newly uplinked 473-477 channels. The EPG for channel 100 shows the game as multicam.

If your receiver isn't showing the new Dish100 you can see the different view channels by setting up a favorites list with just 139-473-474-475-476-477.

My receivers that have shown the new Dish 100 in the past (a 501 and 301's) went back to the old early this morning for a few hours. They are now back to normal. Perhaps a tweak for today's game?

Other than the mention in the forums, I haven't seen the multicam advertised. E* needs to do a press release on this and the NFL Network addition!

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 12:11 PM

The multicamera channels are up on 473-477, so each camera will be tuneably individually without a Open TV receiver. Unfortunetly the 6 channels mixed together isn't on a dedicated channel for those without Open TV, so that wont help much

473 - High End Zone
474 - Goal Post
475 - Reverse Slash (what is this?
476 - Low End Zone
477 - Reverse Low End Zone

I guess the 6th screen they'll show on 100 is the actual game

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 12:26 PM

Reverse slash is a camera set up on the oposite corner from where all the other cameras are set. "Slash position" means the corner of the field/arena and generally about half the elevation from the "game" cameras. Reverse is a camera that "crosses the line" This is an imaginary line that runs down the middle of the field/court as seen from the "game camera". All cameras should always be on the same side as the main game cameras. Sometimes a reverse angle is best to see some of the action, but it is visually confusing so it is very rarely used in a broadcast.

Essentially all these angels are specialty angles that you would rarely see for the live action. They are mostly what we call beauty shots.

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 01:31 PM

The cameras and mix is up

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Posted 03 September 2005 - 01:37 PM

Okay the "revese slash" is mislabeled here. This the camera labeled "Reverse Slash" should just be "Reverse Angle" or "Reverse Game". This camera is not in a slash position. Great to see that we don't get to hear commercials! It's the raw audio from location! Cool

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