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#26 OFFLINE   greywolf

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 07:53 AM

A new 6x8 multiswitch is required. Make sure the installer knows to bring it to replaces the 4x8.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 08:27 AM

My install is fir this thursday A.M. The multi-switch has actually been my biggest concern. I've called the contractors once and I will be calling again Tuesday to confirm they are bring it. The switch is item that can be easily overlooked. Without, the upgrade is almost useless.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 09:17 AM

Correction. I have a 5x8 multi switch. The Dish comes with one built in?

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 09:44 AM

Tier 2 Tech Support - 800-695-9251.

Just called to check on my upgrade date change and they were no help, transferred me to Installation support. They were unable to find any of my info thru order #,phone # or account #, asked to speak to a supervisor. Super explained that order was "frozen" 24-48 before they could access it to request change of date. I submitted my preference of 12/17 a.m. appt. and they will attempt that for me when order is "unfrozen" and will call to confirm or try another date/time. Another 20 minutes of phone time wasted.


Newest developments for my upgrade.

Contacted D* installation support on 12/11 after not hearing back from anyone. Asked to confirm my upgrade status and date for this to happen.

Suprise !!! There was no date assigned , but they did have all they other info about equipment and no charges. I am now scheduled for 1/7/06 at my request.

Called D* today to confirm all info again based on past experiences. Still scheduled for 1/7. Confirmed that MASTEC - Advanced Technologies 1-877-889-7880 will do the upgrade. Contact MASTEC to confirm and inform them to note on ticket that I currently have a pole mount and to make sure tech has materials in case there is a issue with line of sight for new dish/satellites. They noted and gave me # to dispatch to confirm (540-545-8815). Dispatch had all info noted on the job #.

This is getting stranger all the time in dealing with D*. Hopefully all I have to worry about is the weather on that date. Stay tuned.



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Posted 12 December 2005 - 10:56 AM

Correction. I have a 5x8 multi switch. The Dish comes with one built in?

The AT9 has a built in 4 output multiswitch as does the Phase III. Your 5x8 will need to be replaced by the Zinwell WB68 6x8. If you are using the 5x8 to diplex an antenna into the mix, you won't be able to do that any more.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 01:11 PM

redskin9,

The same company is coming to my house on the 15th. I'll let you know how it goes. My pole mount (gound) is ready to, got all the cabling in place. Just waiting for the equipment. I'd take a stab at doing myself like I have the past 10 years. However, next to time pent, this is a free upgrade for me. $0.00.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 02:02 PM

I'm scheduled for the 19th. Quick question about all these posts about multi-switches, etc.

My current setup has 4 lines coming into the basement from the Dish. I assume there is something attached to the dish that distributes the signal into 4 lines.

In my basement, the 4 lines arrive at what I believe is a multiswitch. It takes the 4 lines coming from the satellite and splits them into 8 lines. There is an AC adapter plugged into it, so it's powered in some way.

I send 6 of the lines to 3 existing TIVO DVRs. That leaves me with 2 available lines, of which I have run one to my new H20 that I purchased last week. Everything so far is going well.

My question is what will need to change? When you all talk about the Zinwell WB68 6x8, what does this replace? The thing attached to my satellite outside, or my multiswitch in my basement?

I need to be sure that I know what they need to replace and if it's going to ultimately impact my 8 feeds going through my house.

Any clarification would be appreciated.

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 02:08 PM

I'm scheduled for the 19th. Quick question about all these posts about multi-switches, etc.

My current setup has 4 lines coming into the basement from the Dish. I assume there is something attached to the dish that distributes the signal into 4 lines.

In my basement, the 4 lines arrive at what I believe is a multiswitch. It takes the 4 lines coming from the satellite and splits them into 8 lines. There is an AC adapter plugged into it, so it's powered in some way.

I send 6 of the lines to 3 existing TIVO DVRs. That leaves me with 2 available lines, of which I have run one to my new H20 that I purchased last week. Everything so far is going well.

My question is what will need to change? When you all talk about the Zinwell WB68 6x8, what does this replace? The thing attached to my satellite outside, or my multiswitch in my basement?

I need to be sure that I know what they need to replace and if it's going to ultimately impact my 8 feeds going through my house.

Any clarification would be appreciated.


Yes, you need the Zinwell WB68 or equal to recieve HD locals from D* over the satellite. If you get the locals with an OTA, then you should not need it. The older 5x8 switches to not cover all of the signal ranges needed coming from the 5 different satellites (MPEG4). It should replace the switch in the basement.
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Posted 12 December 2005 - 05:02 PM

in DC.

long time forum browser, though this may be my first or second post!!.. anyway, contacted D* today and got a supervisor on the phone after about 30 minutes of bargaining and holding.. I figured I'd give complaining about a few things a try... ie. Superfan, being a long time customer, and the whole swap thing.. well, right off the bat she gave me 6 months of the HD package for free, tacked on a $5 dollar discount for the next 6 months on my total bill, and took away the shipping.. only drawback is she's taking my sammy 360.. oh well! Install date is Dec. 26th.. can't wait... now, to the meat of the post...

Can anyone recommend a HDMI cable to run from the H20 to a Sammy HLP-4663?
I see varying prices in the cables from $15-105 and am unsure whether to go cheap or expensive... any help or advice would be greatly appreciated..

thanks all.. i can always count on this forums members for a great answer...

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Posted 12 December 2005 - 05:47 PM

only drawback is she's taking my sammy 360.. oh well!



You shouldn't have to give up your existing reciever. I'm not and several other existng HD customers aren't as well.
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Posted 15 December 2005 - 02:40 PM

Yes, you need the Zinwell WB68 or equal to recieve HD locals from D* over the satellite. If you get the locals with an OTA, then you should not need it. The older 5x8 switches to not cover all of the signal ranges needed coming from the 5 different satellites (MPEG4). It should replace the switch in the basement.


OK, how about this? Can I still use my existing 5x8 switch and run 3 lines from satellite and split them into 6 lines for my Directv TIVOS, and then run the 4th line from the satellite directly to my H20 receiver? Will that work?

I guess my big question is can you use the older 5x8 switches with the new Dish at all, or do you absolutely have to replace it with the Zinwell?

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Posted 15 December 2005 - 09:49 PM

OK, how about this? Can I still use my existing 5x8 switch and run 3 lines from satellite and split them into 6 lines for my Directv TIVOS, and then run the 4th line from the satellite directly to my H20 receiver? Will that work?

I guess my big question is can you use the older 5x8 switches with the new Dish at all, or do you absolutely have to replace it with the Zinwell?

If you are very lucky, you might be able to use an existing 5x8 for a short time. All depends on if the switch works well enough in the first set of frequency ranges that D* uses.

On the other hand, when D* installs a new 5lnb dish, they bring the new switch. It uses 4 lines just like the 3lnb setup. So let them go ahead and make sure they put one in.

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 03:31 AM

My neighbor got a 5LNB install today. I went over to talk to him and the installers seeing as though I have a install set for a week from now. Any way, they did monut the dish on the roof which was my concern because thats were my phaseIII is and I heard that it might be to heavy but it looks like that will be ok.

My neighbors install was a upgrade from a dual LNB. He added just the H20 and, additional standard receiver looks great all works well except the bedroom which was fine until this install. The installer could not get it to work with the 5LNB. When he reconnected it to the 2LNB he says it still did not work. My neighbor says that it was working with the 2LNB before they started the upgrade. It was snowing in the area so the installer said he would come back within the next 2 days to correct/trouble shoot the problem. I asked if he installed the 6x8 multi switch. The installer said he did not need it since it was only a 3rm install. Well I'm going to be on it if they are the ones that come for my install.
The installer commended my neighbor on his local reception and said that he would not have needed the 5LNB for the locals if he had the phaseIII dish just the H20. I brought off on this since I have the phaseIII/OTA and the HD receiver that interacts with it and rushed to BB and picked up the H20 w/$200.00 rebate and swap out one of my receivers. Needles to say I am not getting the locals, other HD content is fine through the phaseIII by it self I had to split the OTA to get it HD locals.
Questions: whats up with my neighbors standard receiver ( the H20 and another standard are fine)? and Is their any way to get locals with out the 5LNB or OTA with the H20 and just the PhaseIII?
Oh yeah if I get these installers I'll be on them.

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Posted 16 December 2005 - 02:05 PM

Found the answer to my second question. No you can't get locals with just the phaseIII. I hooked up my OTA to my H20 and now I get HD locals and the MEPG4 local line up for my zip. Have'nt heard from neighbors dilema.

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Posted 19 December 2005 - 07:28 AM

Alrighty..... I have a 2nd schedule appointment for the 15th between 8-12. 1-h20, 1-5-LNB, 1- 6x8 multiswitch at no cost I keep existing equipment. We shall see.


Haven't heard about your upgrade and how it went on 15th. What's the story ?

By the way, HAIL SKINS !!!!


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Posted 22 December 2005 - 04:30 PM

Install was done today. Less than an hour and all is well. Can't stand this remote!

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Posted 23 December 2005 - 07:29 AM

I had my install on the 19th in Stafford. Everything went really well. The only thing was that the installer talked me into mounting the new dish on a pole in the ground instead of attached to the roof. The installer said there are concerns about the weight of the new dish and being structurally sound mounted on the roof. Therefore, it cost me another $85 to have them dig a hole, mount it on a pole and cement it in. No biggie, but wondering if it really needed to be done this way.

Otherwise, the installation was great. They replaced my existing multiswitch in the basement with a Zinwell for no charge. The HD Locals look great!! When I first used the box, NBC4 was having audio problems, but that cleared up after a while, and haven't happened since. Monday Night Football on ABC was absolutely beautiful to watch in HD!!! I kept switching back and forth with the SD feed, and couldn't believe what I've been missing. The icing on the cake? Even my wife could notice the difference!!! She never notices things like that!!

I was told that the the HD Locals are included free with the Locals package. You do not need the HD Package to get the HD Locals. Therefore, once my 3 free months of the HD Package finishes, I think I'm just going to drop it. There isn't enough there to justify keeping it. Heck, even the HD ESPN channel only broadcasts half of their programming in HD.

One last thing. The installer said that because of the size and configuration of the dish, there should be less problems with dropouts due to clouds and rain. He said that this dish should be able to get through most storms. Only snow and ice would continue to be problems. Does anyone know if he was just blowing smoke, or will the new dish do a better job of keeping a signal in bad weather?

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Posted 24 December 2005 - 12:41 AM

I had my install on the 19th in Stafford. Everything went really well. The only thing was that the installer talked me into mounting the new dish on a pole in the ground instead of attached to the roof. The installer said there are concerns about the weight of the new dish and being structurally sound mounted on the roof. Therefore, it cost me another $85 to have them dig a hole, mount it on a pole and cement it in. No biggie, but wondering if it really needed to be done this way.

One last thing. The installer said that because of the size and configuration of the dish, there should be less problems with dropouts due to clouds and rain. He said that this dish should be able to get through most storms. Only snow and ice would continue to be problems. Does anyone know if he was just blowing smoke, or will the new dish do a better job of keeping a signal in bad weather?

Ah, the successful upsell. Yeah there are lots of installers pushing the pole in the ground mount. The good news is its easier to clean snow off that way. I'm not a big fan of putting holes in my roof anyway, but I think mine will be a wall mount replacing the current 3lnb.

The installer was correct about rainfade. The new Ka frequencies are very susceptible to rainfade, so the bigger dish and very precise alignment procedure seem to do a better job overall with rain. So if he aligned the dish correctly, you should be in great shape.

Merry Christmas!
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Posted 24 December 2005 - 12:09 PM

Good luck with MASTEC!
I will never let one of their techs near my equipment again. You better watch them closely and I hope you have a better experience with them than I did.
From my experience MASTEC is terrible.

Newest developments for my upgrade.

Contacted D* installation support on 12/11 after not hearing back from anyone. Asked to confirm my upgrade status and date for this to happen.

Suprise !!! There was no date assigned , but they did have all they other info about equipment and no charges. I am now scheduled for 1/7/06 at my request.

Called D* today to confirm all info again based on past experiences. Still scheduled for 1/7. Confirmed that MASTEC - Advanced Technologies 1-877-889-7880 will do the upgrade. Contact MASTEC to confirm and inform them to note on ticket that I currently have a pole mount and to make sure tech has materials in case there is a issue with line of sight for new dish/satellites. They noted and gave me # to dispatch to confirm (540-545-8815). Dispatch had all info noted on the job #.

This is getting stranger all the time in dealing with D*. Hopefully all I have to worry about is the weather on that date. Stay tuned.



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Posted 30 December 2005 - 11:16 PM

From redskin9:

Haven't heard about your upgrade and how it went on 15th. What's the story ?


HDTVsportsfan -- I am getting the new installation Jan 9 by Mastec, so I too am very eager to hear how your installation went.

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From aaronwt:

From my experience MASTEC is terrible.

Could you elaborate on your problems? I would like to know what I need to watch out for. If it's anything like my last installer, they stepped through my ceiling and left without telling me. An hour later I found the gaping hole in my ceiling...:mad:

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Posted 31 December 2005 - 03:13 AM

All this work for only 4 of the local chnanels are listed for HD ( 4,5,7,9) - why not UPN and WB? Even though reception is spotty I can at least get 7 & 9 OTA and really don't care about the others yet...

Is all the hassel for 4 more HD really worth the upgrade ?


I agree, I don't think all this pain is worth it right now. Especially if you were getting the HD locals using an OTA. I think it will be worth it once they start adding more national HD channels which I assume will be in MPEG4 so you will slowly get more channels and I guess you have gotten all the pain and frustration out of the way. Then again i don't even know how many new national HD channels they will be adding, maybe 2 or 3 in 2006, but is that even worth it, espeically if they're channels you don't even watch. This HD expansion plan is going to take several years and I think by 2007 it will definitely be worth it to upgrade. By then I'm hoping HD locals will include more then just the major 4 metworks and by then there might be 10 or 15 more naitonal HD channels. I think expanding HD locals into more markets is the primary concern so I don't think you should be in a rush right now.

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Posted 31 December 2005 - 04:34 AM

MASTEC IS ABSOLUTELY HORRIBLE!!!! There is no tellin how many customers DTV has lost. But it is really there fault for having such a poor installation setup using these crappy installers, my experience with MASTEC…

When I first became a DTV subscriber a few years ago, I had to go thru the pains of an installation. The first installer showed up with his pregnant wife and he looked like he was 17 years old and had no idea what he was doing. So after figuring out he didn’t know what he was doing, I asked him to leave and I’ll reschedule. The second installers that came and they didn’t seem to have any clue either. They actually took a very small bucket, filled it with a bit of cement, stuck in a large pole, and attached the dish. I had no idea they had done this until a few minutes after they left, my signal went to zero and I couldn’t believe it. I went upstairs to the roof (live in an apartment building) and the dish was on the ground and the LNB was broken. So I had to call them all pissed off and they sent out another guy who basically put on another dish and piled some brick on top of the bucket. This lastest for about a day. So I ended up hiring someone myself and getting them to do the installation. I couldn’t drill so I had to use one of those metal frames that sits on the ground wth some cinder blocks on top of it. The installation cost me 200 bucks total but it was absolutely excellent. The tech got a very strong signal that those idiots never got, rewired my apartment, and just cleaned up everything in general. He took about an hour, was very friendly, and I never had trouble again. I wish I remember the name of the company (it was something like Sky Dish or Sky Direct, I found them in the phone book) but they were excellent and I guess you get what you pay for. Anyway after a year or so I had to move and coudlnt’ take the dish with me so I gladly gave it to my brother who made good use of it. So after I moved once again, I now had line of sight and wanted to get DTV again and this is my second experience

Even though it had been awhile I was absolutely dreading this new install and I had no idea what I was in for. It took 8 separate techs to come out and it was actually a non Mastech technician who finally got it done. The first installer showed up, pulled out his compass, and said you can’t get DTV because you don’t have line of sight. This was total bs because I know I had line of sight and there were 4 or 5 apartments below and above me who all had dishes. This guy was simply was bs’ing me and he just didn’t want to do the install. He told me he wasn’t gonna do the install because it was a waste of time. After a few minutes I realized he just didn’t want to do the install so I said ok and asked him to leave. The second tech showed up, said he couldn’t mount the dish to the balcony railing because it wouldn’t work. Once again there were 4 or 5 people in other apartments who had dishes mounted to their railings, one person even had that much 3LNB dish so I knew it was possible. This guy didn’t want to do it either and just left. The third tech showed up with a few standard receivers missing one Tivo box which I was supposed to have installed. He said he would go get a Tivo box and come back….guess what he never showed up. The fourth tech came out and said he didn’t have enuf wiring and had to go pick up some more wire…never heard from him again. The fifth tech showed up and said he had no flat cables (those flat coaxial connectors used for running wire thru windows and doors) and I couldn’t believe tis because I knew this would be required after the first install and kept calling to make sure they brought them with them. He gave me some bs about having to order some more from the wholesaler and he would need 20 bucks from me for each one, I knew this was bs. He promised me he would finish his other jobs and come to the install later that day, I never heard fro him again. The sixth installer came out and said “Oh you don’t want me to drill, then I need flat cables which I don’t have.” I almost lost it. He asked me if there was a Radio Shack in the area so he could go pick some up. I told him there was one down the street, he said he would be back in a few minutes. After an hour he called me and said they checked 3 Radio Shacks in the area and they were all out of stock. Now I feel like an idiot because later on I found out that Radio Shack doesn’t even sell these cables, at least the one near me doesn’t and this tech was probably calling me on the way to his next job. The seventh installer came, had no flat cable but said he would just drill thru the wall. I live in an apartment building where you can’t drill into the walls, he somehow convinced to just put a few small holes. But once I saw him bust out the drill I said forget and why the f..k didn’t you bring flat cables when this was the problem on my previous installs. It got very heated and I actually thought I was about to brawl with a tech righ in my home. He just wanted to walk out and at this point I was so freaking mad that I asked him to get his supervisor on the line so I could get him to send out another tech with the necessary cables. At first he refused, then he pretended to call and said the line was busy. I know this was just bs and I told him to wait while I called his office. He started to leave and I just shut my door and wouldn’t let him. I know this is pretty crazy but I was just so mad and fed up with all the abuse. Remember I haven’t even mentioned that I was sitting around for hours during each of these installs and most times they would arrive half an hour or more after the install window. Anyway, this guy kept trying to leave and we sort of got into before my brother came out and broke it up. My brother asked the tech to leave, and he gladly ran out the door. I was so f’ing mad at this point I picked up the phone to try and call the office. My brother took the phone from me and as I was yelling in the background he talked to a supervisor and explained the situation. The supervisor actally wanted to talk to me to apologize but my brother said he didn’t think that was a good idea. I told my brote to just hang up and I was going to cable. My bro somehow convinced me to give it one more try. The next day an installer came out and did the installatin flawlessly in about an hour. He wasn’t even a local tech, he had driven up from Atlanta to help do installs because there was a lack of techs or something. I explained my experience with previous installers and he said he wasn’t surprised and had heard very similar stories from other customers he had done installs for. He literally install after install where people were given just bogus explanations. But he also mentioned that a lot of the techs are just incompetent and shouldn’t be doing installs. He mentioned that some of the techs he talked to didn’t even have basic wiring experience and shouldn’t be allowed to sit there drilling holes into people’s houses. He told me that the whole bs about flat cables was just an excuse not to do the install. Later when he went back to his van to pick up some tools he took me along and showed me how he had a box full of flat cables, a bunch of standard and Tivo receivers and lots of wiring and multiswitches. He the truth is that all the previous techs just didn’t want to do the install because of the wiring involved. It made sense since it was a 4 room installation, and it would take quite a bit of wiring. But I live in an apartment where the rooms are very close together and the wiring ins’t really that bad. Especially compared to home installations where I imagine the wiring job is much more extensive. Nonetheless he explained that 4 rooms is a lot and these guys are just plain lazy. I was so happy with this tech that I actually took his number because I wanted to call DTV and give some good feedback plus I wanted him to do future upgrades. Unfortunately, he was going back to Atlanta in a few weeks and really wouldn’t be around.

I know this has been a very long post but I wanted to include all the details and mention my whole experience. I really cannot believe how bad some of these installers are. I mean how can they have so many bad installers who just jerk people around like this. From Directv’s standpoint, I don’t understand why they have such a poor installation system in place. I mean since I love DTV I was very patient and went thru hell, but how many customers have they lost becaue of this. Consider how much tie people waste dealing with this. I really wonder if DTV has any idea how bad this problem is. I keep hearing them talking about 15 million subscribers and hw they plan to grow, I mean maybe they would have 20 million by now if they didn’t have such a lousy installation system. I just don’t get it. If I’m not mistaken they basically assign one or two installation companies to do installations for a specific geographic area, isn’t this correct. When I would call DTV to ask for a different company, they said this was the only compay that did installs in my area and they could only send out another tech from the same company. I only learned this after the third or fourth call because before that the DTV CSR’s said ok will assign a different company when they were just sending out installers from the same place. I heard the CEO or CFO of DTV speaking at I believe the Merril Lynch conference and he mentioned that they are going to improve the installation experience for customers from start to finish, I mean does this guy even have a clue? Instead of just adding more subscribers how about improving the whole installation structure and process. I mean this whole thing needs to be overhauled.

Finally, let me say that this post is being writeen after reading several horror stories from others and I felt I must share my experience. You can tell I am still very angry and bitter about the whole process. My DTV contract is about to expire and I am seriously considering going to Comcast just so that I don’t have to go thru all this again as I move to HD. And trust me I don’t have much love for the either. Wow, do you think I might have some anger problems, “Hulk Mad, must smash things!!!

If you have read to this point, thanks and go smash something.

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Posted 31 December 2005 - 06:16 AM

Mastec spent 40 hours at my condo trying to get the 119 satellite. They finally told me I was at the one location in the US that received a signal from the 110 and 119 at the same spot so the signals would override each other(they said something similar to this, I can't remember exactly since it was so stupid). I finally got to the point where I did it myself. The problem was a building was in the way. A 3 story building only 50 feet away. I mentioned it to them before but they wouldn't listen. I figured they knew what they were doing. I moved the dish 2 to 3 feet and solved my problem.
If they would have just had a dish on a pole that you could move around they could have easily figured out definitively where you can get a signal. I bought a round dish for $20 and did this myself. In just a couple of minutes I was able to get a signal from all 3 locations(I still had to dig up the concrete and put new concrete in the new hole). They spent almost 40 hours and couldn't achieve that, and that was with 2 supervisors spending time trying to figure it out. It still makes my blood boil when I think about all the time I wasted on the phone and being home for them to impersonate Laurel and Hardy. And it has been almost 4 years since the debacle.
That's why I will think about leaving DirecTv if they make me get a visit from MAstec again. If they don't give me a choice I will seriously think about leaving. I saw the install videos for the new dish. it is very involved. I really think it would be impossible for a Mastec employee to perform the install. The techs that came out to my place never even had a signal meter. Not that it stopped me from getting proper signal in a few minutes, but the MAstec people certainly couldn't after 40 hours of trying and because a 3 story building is in the way? I can't believe they are even still in business.
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 08:53 AM

Haven't heard about your upgrade and how it went on 15th. What's the story ?

By the way, HAIL SKINS !!!!


Hey redskin9,

The day of my install was the day it was raining, sleeting, snowing, raining, back and forth etc.... The installer was a couple hours late. I also have a very small "line of site window". I'm trying something a little different for my pole mounted installation that screwed me up. Once he arrived we decided to re-scedule for 1/11/05. Then i got a phone call Thursday saying they had an opening for today (12-31) between 1-5. I'll post some pictures when it's done. My partner (business) was on vacation for the last 2.5 weeks as well. So i was pretty much short on time while he was gone, and of course the holidays.

Basiclly I'm trying to get this this thing mounted on what amounts to a telescoping pole. I have one pipe (2.5" diameter)in the ground about 3 feet with a 2" post slipped inside. The idea is to be able to raise or lower the the dish as needed. I have a tree across the street that I know is going to give me problem in a couple of years. It sounds cheesy, but it should be quite stable. The pipes are "schedule 80". I don't know what that means to anyone else. But, these pipes are very thick. They're fire sprinkler pipe I got from a local machine shop. I have regular 2" conduit and concrete on hand if I can't make this giration work for a "normal " install. I'll post pics when it's done. I really don't want to put the new dish on the roof or the side of the house.

Yea, my boy got there butts kicked without a doubt. It's going to be an interesting final weekend of football. Hopefully Lavar screwed you guys up. LOL........
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Posted 31 December 2005 - 10:26 AM

They finally told me I was at the one location in the US that received a signal from the 110 and 119 at the same spot so the signals would override each other


I'm speechless.

Maybe they were thinking of the Bermuda Triangle. Or that crossing proton streams thing from Ghostbusters.

A stunning bit of deductive logic indeed.




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