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MPEG4 now live in L.A. and N.Y.


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#1 OFFLINE   moonman

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 02:15 PM

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DIRECTV Brings High-Definition Local Channels to New York Today

WHAT: DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading digital television service
provider, announced today that it has begun offering local
high-definition (HD) channels via satellite to New York via new
compression technology known as MPEG 4 AVC (Motion Picture
Expert Group -- Advanced Video Compression).

New York is one of dozens of cities that will receive HD
local programming from DIRECTV using MPEG-4 AVC, the new
standard in digital video compression, and advanced modulation
that more than doubles the efficiency of DIRECTV's capacity.

DIRECTV will carry each of the four primary broadcast networks
that offer an HD feed in the market. Customers who subscribe to
a programming package that includes local channels will receive
both the standard and HD signals at no extra monthly charge.

DIRECTV offers local HD broadcast channels in 12 cities with
plans to launch an additional 24 cities early next year,
offering access to DIRECTV-delivered local HD channels in more
than 57 percent of U.S. television households.

Customers can receive New York local HD channels by purchasing a
new H20 HD receiver and a satellite dish that has the ability to
receive programming from five different orbital locations.
DIRECTV is offering new and existing non-HD customers who
purchase a DIRECTV HD receiver a $200 mail-in rebate. (Limit
one rebate per customer.) Receiving equipment is available at
major consumer electronics retailers like Best Buy and Circuit
City, and through DIRECTV. Existing DIRECTV customers do not
need to upgrade their HD equipment initially since their
existing MPEG-2 receivers will continue to receive local HD
broadcasts.

WHEN: Beginning today, the following high-definition local channels
will be available to DIRECTV customers in the New York
designated market area (DMA):

New York DMA New HD Local Channels*

-- WABC/Channel 7 -- WNBC/ Channel 4
-- WCBS/Channel 2 -- WNYW (FOX)/Channel 5

Contact: DIRECTV, Inc. PainePR for DIRECTV
Jade Ekstedt Elizabeth Owen
310-964-3429 949-809-6734

* Eligibility for local channels is based on service address within
certain designated market areas as defined by Nielsen Media Research,
Inc. Visit DIRECTV.com for more information.

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DIRECTV Transmits High-Definition Local Channels in New MPEG-4 Transmission Standard to Los Angeles

WHAT: DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading digital television service
provider, announced today that it has begun offering local
high-definition (HD) channels via satellite to Los Angeles via new
compression technology known as MPEG 4 AVC (Motion Picture Expert
Group -- Advanced Video Compression).

Los Angeles is one of dozens of cities that will receive HD local
programming from DIRECTV using MPEG-4 AVC, the new standard in
digital video compression, and advanced modulation that more than
doubles the efficiency of DIRECTV's capacity.

DIRECTV will carry each of the four primary broadcast networks that
offer an HD feed in the market. Customers who subscribe to a
programming package that includes local channels will receive both
the standard and HD signals at no extra monthly charge.

DIRECTV offers local HD broadcast channels in 12 cities with plans
to launch an additional 24 cities early next year, offering access
to DIRECTV-delivered local HD channels in more than 57 percent of
U.S. television households.

Customers can receive Los Angeles local HD channels by purchasing a
new H20 HD receiver and a satellite dish that has the ability to
receive programming from five different orbital locations. DIRECTV
is offering new and existing non-HD customers who purchase a
DIRECTV HD receiver a $200 mail-in rebate. (Limit one rebate per
customer.) Receiving equipment is available at major consumer
electronics retailers like Best Buy and Circuit City, and through
DIRECTV. Existing DIRECTV customers do not need to upgrade their HD
equipment initially since their existing MPEG-2 receivers will
continue to receive local HD broadcasts.

WHEN: Beginning today, the following high-definition local channels will
be available to DIRECTV customers in the Los Angeles designated
market area (DMA) in the new MPEG-4 standard:


Los Angeles DMA New HD Local Channels*

-- KABC/Channel 7 -- KTTV (Fox)/Channel 11
-- KCBS/Channel 2 -- KNBC/ Channel 4


Contact: DIRECTV, Inc. PainePR for DIRECTV
Jade Ekstedt Elizabeth Owen
310-964-3429 949-809-6734

* Eligibility for local channels is based on service address within
certain designated market areas as defined by Nielsen Media Research,
Inc. Visit DIRECTV.com for more information.

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#2 OFFLINE   lesmoss

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 03:41 PM

Why are they doing this? Don't they already have all these CONUS in MPEG2? Are they going to turn those off? Are HD distants a thing of the past???

#3 OFFLINE   fluffybear

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Posted 28 December 2005 - 04:32 PM

Could be several reasons. The two that come to mind off the bat are:

1) DirecTV MAY have decided to activate a CONUS Transponder and since these markets are used for DNS, it makes sense to move them first rather then try and add something new. After all, this would help know if you have this thing properly set-up.

2) DirecTV MAY plan to add some new national HD channels in the near future and by firing up locals in these 2 markets they have a reason to actually install these new dishes rather then ina couple of years

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 01:02 AM

I am in LA and was already receiving the HD locals from DirecTV to my HD DirecTivo. Is DirecTV at some point going to "shut off" the MPEG-2 broadcasts, requiring me to upgrade to a future non-Tivo HD DVR? (I will do that, assuming the non-Tivo software isn't horrifying.) This article was somewhat unclear, saying, "Customers can receive Los Angeles local HD channels by purchasing a new H20 HD receiver and a satellite dish that has the ability to receive programming from five different orbital locations.... Existing DIRECTV customers do not need to upgrade their HD equipment initially since their existing MPEG-2 receivers will to receive local HD broadcasts." I guess the key word here is "initially," in that last sentence.

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 07:44 AM

That may be a possibility! DirecTV is under no obligation to provide DNS service from MPEG-2 so it would be very possible for DirecTV to move LA and NY to MPEG-4 (and requiring those with DNS service to move as well) so that they can use the MPEG-2 bandwidth for soem new NATIONAL HD Channels.

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 07:52 AM

I'm in LA and in NO hurry to dump my Tivo. In fact I'm rooting for Dish to add the networks so I can jump ship. No 30 second skip on the new PVR is a deal breaker for me. Also Dish is coming out with a new MPEG 4 PVR Feb. 1st.

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Posted 29 December 2005 - 03:20 PM

I'm in LA and in NO hurry to dump my Tivo. In fact I'm rooting for Dish to add the networks so I can jump ship. No 30 second skip on the new PVR is a deal breaker for me. Also Dish is coming out with a new MPEG 4 PVR Feb. 1st.


They aren't even adding the PBS stations, much less the other locals like WB and UPN who also broadcast HD.
If they have no intention of at least adding PBS, they will have trouble marketing this item. ALSO, they do not yet have an MPEG4 DVR. That is probably 6 months away. They started offering this same type of service in SF a month ago. The few people who decided to get a soon to be obsolete non DVR MPEG4 box have reported LOTS of problems on another board - AVS Forums.

I'll sure have questions for D* next week at CES!! I've been holding up upgrading our BEV HD box to a DVR waiting to see what D* and DISH will come up with. We have been in a holding pattern by renting a Comcast box for the past several months. BEV, right now, offers ALL the networks including WB (via WGN HD, and UPN via a Canadian station that carries most UPN stuff). They do carry two PBS HD stations - Seattle and Boston.

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Posted 30 December 2005 - 12:49 AM

That may be a possibility! DirecTV is under no obligation to provide DNS service from MPEG-2 so it would be very possible for DirecTV to move LA and NY to MPEG-4 (and requiring those with DNS service to move as well) so that they can use the MPEG-2 bandwidth for soem new NATIONAL HD Channels.


Oh I dont want that to happen any time soon... 6 months ago I got a HD-Tivo right after the price drop because I figured it would be quite a while before D* offered HD locals here (still dont have regular locals, DMA is something like 150 with only 1 HD channel running OTA (not including PBS right now). But I do get NBC and FOX out of NY in HD because we dont have an affiliate locally for either.

And Id much rather have the HDTivo for as long as possible than to get stuck with the Directv DVR boxes, especially if their first HD DVR is anything like their first regular boxes.

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Posted 30 December 2005 - 06:44 AM

Oh I dont want that to happen any time soon... 6 months ago I got a HD-Tivo right after the price drop because I figured it would be quite a while before D* offered HD locals here (still dont have regular locals, DMA is something like 150 with only 1 HD channel running OTA (not including PBS right now). But I do get NBC and FOX out of NY in HD because we dont have an affiliate locally for either.

And Id much rather have the HDTivo for as long as possible than to get stuck with the Directv DVR boxes, especially if their first HD DVR is anything like their first regular boxes.


This is only speculation on my part.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 02:02 PM

I live in NY and just yesterday scheduled my 5LNB dish and H20 receiver. Happy to pay only $15 handling fee. All other installation fees are being waived.

In speaking to the Tech Supervisor, he mentioned something about the NY HD locals now being on 2,4,5 and 7. Can anyone confirm this? Also has anyone heard if 9,11, 13 are soon to be added as HD locals in the NYC market? Thanks in advance. Also Happy New Year to all.

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Posted 01 January 2006 - 03:58 PM

NYSat......
For the moment, it's just the "Big 4" (ABC,CBS,NBC and Fox) that will activate with MPEG-4....The scuttlebutt is that once the major markets have their HD-LILs in place, other channels will be "lit up"....A lot has to do with the timely and proper positioning and activation of Spaceway2 at 99.2 degrees; this could take up to several more months to implement (depending on who you talk/listen to....;) )

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 07:25 AM

Thanks dsanbo,
But have you heard anything about the locals being viewed on the 2,4,5,7 (standard locals) as apposed to the 80, 82, 86 and 88 do to the new Mpeg 4 upgrade? Will this also be the case for ESPN, ESPN2, Discovery, HBO and SHO?? It would be nice to have one set of channels to go to. Don't you think?
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Posted 02 January 2006 - 01:40 PM

Thanks dsanbo,
But have you heard anything about the locals being viewed on the 2,4,5,7 (standard locals) as apposed to the 80, 82, 86 and 88 do to the new Mpeg 4 upgrade? Will this also be the case for ESPN, ESPN2, Discovery, HBO and SHO?? It would be nice to have one set of channels to go to. Don't you think?

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Posted 02 January 2006 - 03:38 PM

Since I've had the four "locals" in HD for wellllll over a year now, I'm going to wait for the MPEG4 HD equipment upgrade when you folks indicate that channels 9, 11, and most importantly, channel 13 (WNET, PBS) up and running in HD.

If a new HD NATIONAL network pops up, that will be my trigger to go for the upgrade. 'Til then I'm going to wait... I'm also waiting to hear about the inevitable "bugs" that pop up with the latest technology. Hopefully they are few and far between for those of you that are running MPEG4 now. :-)

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Posted 05 January 2006 - 08:59 PM

Why are they doing this? Don't they already have all these CONUS in MPEG2? Are they going to turn those off? Are HD distants a thing of the past???



I would assume the current HD New York and LA stations on 80-89 would stay on for awhile on MPEG2 because those cities are also the national east/west feeds used as distant HD channels.

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Posted 06 January 2006 - 09:51 AM

I would assume the current HD New York and LA stations on 80-89 would stay on for awhile on MPEG2 because those cities are also the national east/west feeds used as distant HD channels.


I will also point out that DirecTV is NOT obligated to provide HD DNS Service.
As such DirecTV could elect to wait until the major O&O markets are online and then do away with the DNS Service all together..

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Posted 09 January 2006 - 10:22 AM

I will also point out that DirecTV is NOT obligated to provide HD DNS Service.
As such DirecTV could elect to wait until the major O&O markets are online and then do away with the DNS Service all together..




...or upgrade the small number of HD DNS subs as well, and move the whole thing to MPEG4. Especially comparing it to the NY and LA markets, this is a TINY number.




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