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Why new cards??


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#1 OFFLINE   Jasonbp

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 01:49 PM

What's up with having to put new cards into my boxes? I got two new cards today in the mail. I looked at the paper and watched 222 on Directv that told me how to do it. It never gave a reason why, new cards had to be used. Just wondering more than anything.

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#2 OFFLINE   Geronimo

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 02:02 PM

Believe it or not there are unscrupilous people out there who would steal satellite service. DTV takes various measures to counteractt his. This is one.
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#3 OFFLINE   Karl Foster

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 03:47 PM

it seems like a good plan by D*. after they have mailed out the 20 million or so, they will deactivate all of the old-style cards making it that much harder for hackers to steal service.
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Posted 02 August 2002 - 04:27 PM

More than that. The old cards were made by NDS (I don't know who made the new system), but basically there is reason to believe that NDS was deliberately helping hackers. I don't know if that's true, but I did hear it.

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 04:48 PM

It sounds like they are still using NDS technology...

http://www.directv.c...?id=04_02_2002A

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 06:33 PM

Okay, forget my NDS conspiracy theory.

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 06:38 PM

Oh I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't trust NDS as far as I could throw them... :nono:

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 07:10 PM

I thought that they were going in house for this new P4 card, yet it says NDS technology on the card.

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 07:43 PM

Well maybe they are making them and licensed the technology from NDS. That way the'd control the distribution of the cards... :shrug:

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Posted 02 August 2002 - 09:15 PM

There is the acusation that NDS competitors helped to hack the card to wrest the contract away from NDS. No way to know for sure.

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Posted 03 August 2002 - 01:46 PM

Also why would they do a card swap with all that expense and hassle when a merger is around the corner if the equipment may be swapped anyways by the time or before the card swap woudl be done?

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Posted 03 August 2002 - 01:49 PM

DirecTV has to run like there will be no merger. Anyway do you think that they will be able to get new receivers for everyone in the next year. I doubt it.... Anyway who knows, they might go with DirecTV technology anyway...

20 million users. How long would that take to get new receivers to everyone? 2 years?

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Posted 03 August 2002 - 11:41 PM

Originally posted by James_F
It sounds like they are still using NDS technology...

http://www.directv.c...?id=04_02_2002A


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Posted 03 August 2002 - 11:45 PM

Jacob S amd James_F:

I hear you both..and agree with both of your thinkings and comments on why DTV does what it does...

P.S. - should add: when it does it :)

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Posted 04 August 2002 - 07:37 AM

If there is a merger a merged service and equiipment swap could still be months awy. lok at how long it took for PRimestar to go away.
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Posted 04 August 2002 - 04:18 PM

It looks more like DirecTv will be what will be used HOWEVER Charlie I believe wants to use that type of technology he uses to combat piracy and his equipment, especially since he manufactures it and makes money off of it. He says he loses money on the equipment in which he would be better off letting someone else make it for him so he would not lose so much but have heard that he does in fact make money of of the equipment so I dont know what to think, there are two sides to everything.

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Posted 04 August 2002 - 05:48 PM

So then why did you think it was amazing that they would send out new cards?

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Posted 04 August 2002 - 06:11 PM

Originally posted by karl_f
it seems like a good plan by D*. after they have mailed out the 20 million or so, they will deactivate all of the old-style cards making it that much harder for hackers to steal service.


Sounds like there will be a hell of a lot more Canadian bird baths when this is done...

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Posted 04 August 2002 - 06:13 PM

Originally posted by James_F
Anyway who knows, they might go with DirecTV technology anyway...


I hope so. I don't want to give up UTV or TiVo for a crappy DishPVR!

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Posted 04 August 2002 - 06:26 PM

Well the 721 seems better than the Dishplayer (not that it was hard). Most people who have it seem to be really excited. I don't want to give up my Tivo, but I doubt I will have to...




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