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DirecTV's LEASING Plan (Effective 3/1/2006)


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#1 OFFLINE   DRSForLife

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Posted 27 February 2006 - 09:23 AM

A $300 up front fee for leasing "Advanced Technology" equipment pretty much equates to the current equipment purchase price. But you can't turn around and sell it if you cancel. You could be out some $$$.



Looking at the new pricing for equipment,

Leasing equipment ------- Owning equipment
DVR - $99 --------------------------- $349
HD - $ 99 ---------------------------- $ 349
HDDVR - $499 ----------------------- $ 749

I think I'd rather lease, because at least with leasing, if something goes wrong, I can get a replacement at no cost, where as owning, if I don't have the Protection Plan, I'm stuck buying another one at the same cost.

Earlier in the forum, someone asked about the Protection Plan. The new leasing model only covers the receiver itself. If you don't have the Protection Plan, you would still be responsible for the remote control or for service calls for technical reasons, so if I were you, I'd still keep the Protection Plan even if you leased your equipment.

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#2 OFFLINE   captain_video

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Posted 28 February 2006 - 03:21 PM

If you get DTV's protection plan ($7.99/month for advanced receivers, including DVRs) then you get the same protection as the leasing plan. The prices you posted for owning equipment is a bit skewed, IMO. You can buy brand new DTivos for $99 or less, even without any rebates attached. HDTivos and receivers vary all over the place if you look on ebay, even for new equipment.

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 12:58 AM

The prices you posted for owning equipment is a bit skewed, IMO. You can buy brand new DTivos for $99 or less, even without any rebates attached. HDTivos and receivers vary all over the place if you look on ebay, even for new equipment.


Not as of 3/1. The prices posted are correct, for equipment ordered through D* and it's authorized dealers.
The lower prices are available under the lease program with a contract.
The higher prices ($349, $749) are for owned equipment with no contract.

#4 OFFLINE   sharpmibo

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:21 AM

Spoke with D* yesterday to get details on leasing a H10-250. Since I have already used my $200 rebate on a H20 I am only eligable for a $100 rebate. This means a cost of $499 plus the lease fees. Seems like same price as before but now I don't own the equipment. When I asked what will happen when the new HD-DVR comes, was told there would be an upgrade fee but not given an amount.

My city area has very limited HD content from cable so I am stuck, but not happy.

#5 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:24 AM

This thread will serve as a focal point for discussion of the LEASING plan, post 3/1/2006
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:45 AM

Even though local HD service is not yet available in my locale, I called the D* HD line yesterday to enquire about the H20. The CSR tried to convince me to wait until the 2nd generation KuKa dish is available which, she said, should be about the time my HD locals are available. At that time, she said, there should be large discounts on this service. (I'll believe it when I see it.)

Anyhow, the point is that the CSR actively tried to get me to wait on the purchase of the H20.

So, what happened? Yesterday D* advertised the H20 + multisat dish on their website for $49, and to day the lease price is listed at $99 (with no rebate). In other words, the price doubled overnight. Thank goodness I purchased an H20 at CC a couple days ago just in case something like this happened!
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#7 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 09:50 AM

I am sure if you insisted... they would have leased it to you.

Probably part of it is, they know the Slimline dish is on the way. It is probably cheaper for them to produce and install a SlimLine dish.

IMHO, one of the sideeffects of this, is that the CSRs will hopefully be more informed of the next technologies in the pipeline, and will help their customers make a better more informed choice.
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 10:16 AM

No doubt because of limited production runs on the CC web site:

Note: DIRECTV® services sold separately. A maximum of six (6) receivers may be leased per year, but not more than two (2) DVR receivers, two (2) HD receivers and one (1) HD DVR receiver may by leased in a given year. A separate monthly equipment leasing fee of $4.99 applies.

So i hope no one has a need for more than one HD dvr :)

#9 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 10:21 AM

I have an hunch that there will be exceptions to that rule.

XYX customer calls up and says... I need three HD-DVRs.
Sorry, you will have to get them over the next three years.
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Posted 01 March 2006 - 10:44 AM

I'm betting the exceptions are made depending how many hearts you have

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 11:51 AM

Looking at the new pricing for equipment,

Leasing equipment ------- Owning equipment
DVR - $99 --------------------------- $349
HD - $ 99 ---------------------------- $ 349
HDDVR - $499 ----------------------- $ 749

$499 to lease a HD-DVR..? Wow, that's expensive...that's $200 more up front than Dish for their HD-DVR...are we sure that number is right..? That seems awfully high just to lease an STB...DirecTV is certainly not going to compete with cable at that price...and how are they going to be competitive with Dish with a $200 higher price..?

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 11:54 AM

$499 to lease a HD-DVR..? Wow, that's expensive...that's $200 more up front than Dish for their HD-DVR...are we sure that number is right..? That seems awfully high just to lease an STB...DirecTV is certainly not going to compete with cable at that price...and how are they going to be competitive with Dish with a $200 higher price..?


That price is right.

They've been competing with E* with that higher price for quite some time, and were selling so fast they can barely keep them in stock.

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 01:50 PM

And they'll sell even faster as the HR20 release approaches :D

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:13 PM

Any odds on the fact the existing production of HR10-250s will sell out way before the HR20-250 is released?

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 03:55 PM

[quote name='DRSForLife']Looking at the new pricing for equipment,

Leasing equipment ------- Owning equipment
DVR - $99 --------------------------- $349
HD - $ 99 ---------------------------- $ 349
HDDVR - $499 ----------------------- $ 749


$499 so I can NOT OWN the box....that's just ridiculous :nono2:


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Posted 01 March 2006 - 04:17 PM

What's it cost (up front and monthly) to lease an HD DVR from a cable company or Dish?

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 04:58 PM

I paid $ 199 for my H20 at best buy.maybe you should just buy your own stuff.and not lease (which I didn't even know Directv does.)I 've been a member for 6 years and i have every receiver I've had since.I signed a 1 year agreement when I first started.I can switch to Cable,Dish Network,or whatever.and sell all my stuff on Ebay,and owe Directv nothing.If you want a rebate then your locked in for 2 years.

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 04:58 PM

That price is right.

They've been competing with E* with that higher price for quite some time, and were selling so fast they can barely keep them in stock.

That $499 price is to lease, not own, as it was in the past. IOW, you now pay the same price to lease the HR10-250 as you did to own it in the past. Great deal.. :rolleyes:

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 05:01 PM

What's it cost (up front and monthly) to lease an HD DVR from a cable company or Dish?

From Comcast there is zero up front cost and only $9.95 per month. With Dish, it's $299 to lease with a $5.95 per month lease fee.

Hey, if DirecTV can get that out of people, more power to them, but I can't see how they will be competitive with Dish and cable at those prices.

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Posted 01 March 2006 - 05:22 PM

More fine print info>>

If you subcribe to a service like HD or DVR and change your mind,or cancel
with the new lease, you have to return the equipment


I say this as I WAS going to buy a H20, by Feb end, activate the HD, get to $200 rebate, get my free three months of HD, { but commit to 2 years TC+] then cancel and hold on to it for future use

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