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Forget the R15 - D* at a MCE near you!


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#1 OFFLINE   monkcee

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 07:30 AM

"Finally, at CES, the satellite giant announced it would work with Microsoft to tightly integrate DirecTV into PCs, potentially eliminating the need for a satellite settop, and granting full access to HD content from an MCE, Xbox 360, portable media players and other connected devices.

Two implementations of DirecTV for the PC were discussed during the show--an internal tuner card a la CableCard, and a box connected externally, probably via 1394.

DirecTV CEO Chase Carey made an appearance during the Intel keynote address, suggesting that a Viiv-certified DirecTV settop box was in the works."

full article: http://www.ce-pro.co...ticle/6958.html

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 08:57 AM

Yes... we where excited about that when the announcement was made.

And re-stated in the quarterly report.

However, it is probably at least 9 months to a year away..

The R15 is still going to be a necessary product... as not everyone could afford a full blown Media Center setup (with the remote boxes and everything).


I am going to move the discussion to the general forum, as it is a discussion topic "larger" then just the R15 world.
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Posted 16 March 2006 - 10:06 AM

Yes... we where excited about that when the announcement was made.

And re-stated in the quarterly report.

However, it is probably at least 9 months to a year away..

The R15 is still going to be a necessary product... as not everyone could afford a full blown Media Center setup (with the remote boxes and everything).


I am going to move the discussion to the general forum, as it is a discussion topic "larger" then just the R15 world.


I am already eyeing some very cool looking MC cases to build my machine. I am going to move my current AMD 64 hardware into the box and build a new X2 64 for my home machine. I LOVE TOYS........

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:02 AM

Yes... we where excited about that when the announcement was made.

And re-stated in the quarterly report.

However, it is probably at least 9 months to a year away..

The R15 is still going to be a necessary product... as not everyone could afford a full blown Media Center setup (with the remote boxes and everything).


I am going to move the discussion to the general forum, as it is a discussion topic "larger" then just the R15 world.




so the media center we will have to pay, basically full retail on it, AND it will still be a lease with a monthly fee ????????????

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:05 AM

so the media center we will have to pay, basically full retail on it, AND it will still be a lease with a monthly fee ????????????


Media Center is a Microsoft product. So you will have to pay what they say. As for the tuner card add-on no one knows how it will work on the sales/lease front yet.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:13 AM

Media Center is a full blown PC.... Full "Retail" is what you make of it..

The add-in card would be just like any other PC-Add on card.

As it being a lease or a purchase, as Kanyon said... we have no idea. Who knows... maybe a year from now they may realize the Lease idea doesn't work, and they go back to way it was.
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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:29 AM

Media Center is a full blown PC.... Full "Retail" is what you make of it..

The add-in card would be just like any other PC-Add on card.

As it being a lease or a purchase, as Kanyon said... we have no idea. Who knows... maybe a year from now they may realize the Lease idea doesn't work, and they go back to way it was.



ok, i think i am getting it now .. i was/am royally confused .....

the way in bits and pieces i had seen, theat directv's media center, that would allow us wi-max internet, voip phone and the client boxes, was to be a box located anywhere in hose, and not a pc, so why should i buy this product, IF i get a windows vista home premiuim pc ?

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:46 AM

There are two proposed products out there... both that share a similar name.


DirecTV IS working on a whole house "Media Center" system...
That is there own deal. It would afford certain features, ect...

They have also struck a deal with Intel and Microsoft, to work on a tuner add-in card to all Microsoft Media Center PC to be integrated with DirecTV.

Me personally... the geek and computer guy that I am...
I would LOVE to be able to harness the power and flexibility of the MS Media PC... Thus I could configurate to conform EXACTLY to my needs... as an Open PC platform affords that option, significantly more then a closed system (such as the DirecTV product would probably be). On a side note, attempt to write my OWN scheduler logic... kinda so I can see how difficult it is.


Basically two different products, for two different target audiences.
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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:55 AM

There are two proposed products out there... both that share a similar name.


DirecTV IS working on a whole house "Media Center" system...
That is there own deal. It would afford certain features, ect...

They have also struck a deal with Intel and Microsoft, to work on a tuner add-in card to all Microsoft Media Center PC to be integrated with DirecTV.

Me personally... the geek and computer guy that I am...
I would LOVE to be able to harness the power and flexibility of the MS Media PC... Thus I could configurate to conform EXACTLY to my needs... as an Open PC platform affords that option, significantly more then a closed system (such as the DirecTV product would probably be). On a side note, attempt to write my OWN scheduler logic... kinda so I can see how difficult it is.


Basically two different products, for two different target audiences.


I suppose to avoid confusion we should refer to the MS product by it's real name, MCE or Media Center Edition, the machines are normally called Media Center PC's. I too have the inner geek, and SO love to mess around with stuff like this. I had an MCE box before but due to an old tuner card I scrapped it.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 11:55 AM

that would allow us wi-max internet, voip phone

Wi-Max is not for indoor use. We'll have to see what happens with the possible joint venture with E* on the phone and Internet service front.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 12:02 PM

There are two proposed products out there... both that share a similar name.


DirecTV IS working on a whole house "Media Center" system...
That is there own deal. It would afford certain features, ect...

They have also struck a deal with Intel and Microsoft, to work on a tuner add-in card to all Microsoft Media Center PC to be integrated with DirecTV.

Me personally... the geek and computer guy that I am...
I would LOVE to be able to harness the power and flexibility of the MS Media PC... Thus I could configurate to conform EXACTLY to my needs... as an Open PC platform affords that option, significantly more then a closed system (such as the DirecTV product would probably be). On a side note, attempt to write my OWN scheduler logic... kinda so I can see how difficult it is.

Basically two different products, for two different target audiences.




ok let me get this straight


basic sd recivers - for now d11
ACTICVE SERVICES

basic sd dvr - for now r15
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES


basic hd dvr - soon be h20
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES

basic direcv media center - whatever it be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES

basic pc based media center - whever it be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES

basic high end pro reciver - whatver it may be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES

correct or ?

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 12:28 PM

ok let me get this straight


basic sd recivers - for now d11

basic sd dvr - for now r15
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOIUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES

basic hd dvr - soon be h20
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOIUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES

basic direcv media center - whatever it be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOIUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES

basic pc based media center - whever it be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOIUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES

basic high end pro reciver - whatver it may be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOIUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES

correct or ?



Actually the Windows MCE boxes can be used for anything, they allow you to have now DirecTV, Cable, OTA, HD. I "THINK" that you can currently add up to 4 tuner cards in an MCE box at one point. So this is a very open type of system.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 02:26 PM

as an Open PC platform affords that option, significantly more then a closed system (such as the DirecTV product would probably be).


Microsoft & Open platform don't exactly go together :lol:

Sorry Earl, I get what you are saying but I had to put that in here... I'll take a mac mini VIIV which we have all seen the pictures of, I have a little bit more control over it. Thus the reason we all love the Tivo, gotta love what you can do with a Linux system.

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 02:28 PM

Microsoft & Open platform don't exactly go together :lol:

Sorry Earl, I get what you are saying but I had to put that in here... I'll take a mac mini VIIV which we have all seen the pictures of, I have a little bit more control over it. Thus the reason we all love the Tivo, gotta love what you can do with a Linux system.


I know... I know...

But... if they give me an API, to control the card and the recording options.
Boom... I have access to write my own scheduler... :D
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Posted 16 March 2006 - 02:31 PM

ok let me get this straight

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List of units and systems
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Except for what we know about the D11 and the R15 right now, and it's current feature set... Everything else is just speculative, until it is actually turned on or formally announced.

Inside and Outside WI-MAX is just being talked about now. how it is introduced... We don't know yet.

It may have nothing to do with our recievers at all.

.... These two

basic pc based media center - whever it be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES

basic high end pro reciver - whatver it may be called
WHICH WILL ALLOW INSIDE AND OUTSIDE HOUSE WI-MAX
BE A BASE FOR DIRECTV2GO
VOIP PHONE SERVICE
ACTIVE SERVICES
WHICH WILL INCLUDE MEDIA CENTER CAPABILITIES


PC Based Media Center:
Basically it is going to be a MS Vista machine, so you would also be able to play PONG and Solitare on it... plus record a DirecTV program... :)

PRO Reciever:
That is probably the least known about product of the bunch.
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Posted 16 March 2006 - 03:26 PM

http://www.hdbeat.co...x-in-the-works/

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Posted 16 March 2006 - 03:42 PM

http://www.hdbeat.co...x-in-the-works/



I can see having that particular VIIV pc in my entertainment cabinet...
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Posted 17 March 2006 - 01:50 PM

I can see having that particular VIIV pc in my entertainment cabinet...

Wimax will not part of the set top box. You would have a wireless or other router in your home that would allow you access to broadband internet.
MCE with DIRECTV is completely seperate product and not related to any current DIRECTV set top boxes .
For all of us that would like to write our own software and enhancements MCE would be the way to go.

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Posted 17 March 2006 - 01:53 PM

I was commenting on the looks of the PC they where showing in that article....

The "looks" would have matched up well in my cabinet.

IMHO... Wireless should only be used if:
1) You have no possibility to run a cable
2) You are on a mobile device.

My home, was just built... so I made darn sure it was wirted correclty.

I think we said that above tha the MCE add-on was not related to any of the current products, other then it is possible that the Home Media Editions and DirecTV2Go may all talk to one another.
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Posted 03 April 2006 - 09:04 AM

Not sure what is better. I am considering building a machine just for recording HD using an HD TV Card and using something like Beyond TV to control the receiver.
Just now hoping for another free after rebate hd receiver offer.
Then I add a slingbox to that and i can see the video anywhere i want.
Just don't know that I trust them to get the directv2go RIGHT for a few years..
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