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Guest Message by DevFuse


Did Dish dish out an ECM 8/15?

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#41 OFFLINE   Darkman


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Posted 17 August 2002 - 06:44 PM

Charlie said once on chat something about - his bill was high...
He is God anyhow - he can do what he desires..
Was said that - Charlie was seen himself in that control room few times..
Maybe that is what control room for - to keep the Employees paranoid and monitored - 24/7 - so they do not slack off..

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#42 OFFLINE   Steve Mehs

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Posted 17 August 2002 - 07:18 PM

I'm reading a hack board now, unfortunately, the 2 ECMs E* sent out are being dealt with quite efficently by hackers for the most part. An announcement was made that advised people not to 'fix' their equipment that got hit with the first ECM because they heard a second was coming soon. Most hackers (at least on the board that I'm reading) are already back online :mad:
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Posted 17 August 2002 - 07:46 PM

Agreed. Seems like we should be able to talk about the affects of piracy. Just as long as we don't get into a how-to pirate type discussion.

I really wish there was some way to find out what Dish actually does when a subscriber calls up and tells Dish his reciever is dead. Would be interesting. Ofcourse, even if the answer is they replace the reciever, surely that is when it is under warranty. This still means legit people with older recievers are getting screwed.

#44 OFFLINE   Jacob S

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Posted 17 August 2002 - 11:45 PM

Maybe Dish is starting to think 'what will these people think when they actually get it fixed so quick? what will these people do to fix the problem? what can we do after they fix the problem? make it a bit worse and think a little different this time anticipating the hackers to come up with a fix.'

#45 OFFLINE   Richard King

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Posted 18 August 2002 - 12:27 AM

Charlie is God!

I thought Eric Clapton was God. :D
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Posted 18 August 2002 - 01:52 AM

some still think - there is no God...

Darvin's theory of evalution etc :)

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Posted 18 August 2002 - 07:24 PM

From my limited understanding about Dish piracy, I believe most of it is achieved because of JTAG connectors on most receivers (those who don't know what JTAG is - it's a hardware debugging interface that allows you to hook up the hardware device through the serial port to your PC and iissue commands to the processor, monitor bus traffic, etc). That basically allows them to figure out how the system works, as well as repair the software in the chips that ECMs occasionally wipe out.

So what I don't get is why Dish just doesn't remove those connectors from the final IRD versions that are sold to the subscribers! :shrug: The only potential legidimate purpose for them that I can see is to help the engineers figure out what went wrong with the RMAed IRDs. BUT in a professional manufacturing environment, I'm sure they can come up with other ways to do that and even if they can't, it's a small price to pay to significantly reduce the spread of piracy, IMHO

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Posted 18 August 2002 - 08:01 PM

TNGTony - hehe - i see it is becoming an Imaginative, Creative, Philosophical and a Popular thread :)


#49 OFFLINE   Scott Greczkowski

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Posted 18 August 2002 - 08:11 PM

Wel now we all know Dish had a major ECM. We know another is coming. For us legel foks lets watch tv.

There is nothing more then this to report, so I am going to close this one.

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