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D* requests FCC OK for 7S sat. move


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#1 OFFLINE   moonman

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 01:35 PM

D* is requesting the FCC for permission to move it's 7S satellite, a KU bird which
carries H/D programming from it's location @ 119.2 to 119.05. The company say's
the move is designed to improve signal reception to it's customers. The Sat.
currently carries ESPN-2, Discovery HD Theater, HDNet, and the N.Y. & L.A. feeds
of NBC,ABC, and FOX. and YES Network

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#2 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 01:36 PM

Intresting...

That .15 difference... will that require a dish reallignment, or with the newer dishes will the angle just be improved that much?

Do you have a link for the source?
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#3 OFFLINE   moonman

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 01:44 PM

Intresting...

That .15 difference... will that require a dish reallignment, or with the newer dishes will the angle just be improved that much?

Do you have a link for the source?

Don't know the answer to that one....here is the link..........
http://www.tvtechnol...one.php?id=1334
http://hraunfoss.fcc...OC-266200A1.pdf
http://www.lyngsat.c...ectvusa119.html

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:24 PM

DirecTV said the proposed relocation would serve the public interest by improving signal reception for millions of DirecTV subscribers, so I presume
the "look" angle would be improved....I don't think D* wants to realign
everyone's dishes..

#5 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:25 PM

I read in the middle of that that there are millions of HD customers...

But also isn't some of the locals on 119 ?
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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:31 PM

I read in the middle of that that there are millions of HD customers...

But also isn't some of the locals on 119 ?

Not that I know of....The stations I listed in my first post, are the only
ones.......
http://www.lyngsat.com/hd/dtv7s.html
Note:AMC 16 & EchoStar 7 & DirecTV 7S are all at 119.0°W...
could be a interferance thing...

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:35 PM

There are a lot of local channel markets on the 119. Both Oklahoma markets (Tulsa and Oklahoma City) are on the 119, for instance. Why else would they need 11 transponders (22-32) on the bird?

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:36 PM

But also isn't some of the locals on 119 ?

There are many locals on 7S/119. Look at the listing on D*'s website and see how many locals require a Phase III.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:37 PM

I read in the middle of that that there are millions of HD customers...

But also isn't some of the locals on 119 ?


Earl you are 100% correct - besides HD Conus, there are Para Todos Conus, AND
many, many spotbeam locals at 119.

They can't be making a move that would require 15 million service calls in one day - that would tie them up completely for MONTHS.

http://www.lyngsat.c...ectvusa119.html

#10 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 02:38 PM

That is what I figured...

So for that...

This thread is going to be on the Move.... ->General DirecTV
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#11 OFFLINE   moonman

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 03:36 PM

I read in the middle of that that there are millions of HD customers...

But also isn't some of the locals on 119 ?

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My Bad....I assumed they meant H/D only, so I pulled data for the 119
which returned the data I posted....sorry for the confusion..of course there
is lots of locals as well as others.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 04:02 PM

For the past 2 weeks my 119 reception has been poor. I wonder if this move request has anything to do with it.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 04:10 PM

For the past 2 weeks my 119 reception has been poor. I wonder if this move request has anything to do with it.

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Could be..AMC 16 & EchoStar 7 & DirecTV 7S are all at 119.0°W...
It seems to me that they could very well be interacting with one another....

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 05:16 PM

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Could be..AMC 16 & EchoStar 7 & DirecTV 7S are all at 119.0╟W...
It seems to me that they could very well be interacting with one another....

Well, if they 'interacting' ( why not ? ), then why bringing 7S close to AMC-16 (118.75W) and E*7 (119.0W) will decrease the 'interaction' ? :confused:

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 05:52 PM

Well, if they 'interacting' ( why not ? ), then why bringing 7S close to AMC-16 (118.75W) and E*7 (119.0W) will decrease the 'interaction' ? :confused:

They are not bringing it "closer" they are moving away from the others, so
as to prevent radio interference and debris from spent rocket parts that may
also be in the area. You can't just think of left/right here, you have to think
also of one being in front of/behind another one, thus blocking it's signals.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 07:32 PM

That's exactly what will happened - "from it's location @ 119.2 to 119.05" ie close to AMC-16 and E*7.
BTW, that debries lefted far behind after launch. You messed up with piloting space objects.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 10:36 PM

Ku sats generally have 6 degree beam width, a move of .15 degree is negligable. Also remeber one degree at that orbit is hundreds of miles wide.

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 10:39 PM

"also of one being in front of/behind another one, thus blocking it's signals."
I don't get this too. Miles apart, using ConUS or spotbeam antennas - what you attempt to make up here ? ;)

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 10:47 PM

Good freekin Grief... LMAO

What a FUNNY thread..

(ill just be quiet)

#20 OFFLINE   P Smith

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Posted 05 July 2006 - 11:03 PM

Just for fun :)

CORRECTED

Geo orbit, ie R: ~26.200 miles
One round at the orbit L: ~164120 miles (2p*R)
One degree diff: d: ~457 miles
.15 of this ~ 68.6 miles

.05 of 1 degree ~23 miles

Now tell me again about 'debries' or 'blocking signals' :D




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