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Use the Sun to Site New Satellite Dish


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#21 OFFLINE   Nuber

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 11:11 AM

Thank you litzdog. I guess I'll have another question between Magnetic and True values when i'm setting the dish up, but I don't want to get off topic in this thread.

The 12:44 time is the same time I "guessed" by extrapolating the difference in between 118.0 and 118.2, to figure out the time for 119.0. I'm glad I was right, but not happy because the window became a lot larger (from 11:13 to 12:44).

BTW, I don't think there is anytthing wrong with the site either. I think there is something wrong with my Java engine instead. As of right now I'm able to initiate the little animated applets but not the main one, and that's under W2k. But when I try with another computer with XP the applet works fine and I'm able to get the time for the 119.0 satellite. Go figure...

Well, thanks again for the link to that applet, and for checking the time for the 119.0. You saved me an inordinate amount of time. And since the difference between today and a couple days from now is minimal, and I'm off today but not in two days, and the sun is shinning right now, guess what I'm about to do in another hour?? :D :D

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#22 OFFLINE   Nuber

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 01:49 PM

Done deal!!!

Found the only place I can put the dish without having to cut any branches or dig holes on the wall. It even works for the 119.0 satellite!

Now I need to lobby the missus. Any applet that will help me with that? :rolleyes:

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Posted 04 October 2006 - 08:20 PM

Now I need to lobby the missus. Any applet that will help me with that? :rolleyes:


1-800-FLO-WERS :lol:

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Posted 05 October 2006 - 12:21 AM

Done deal!!!

Found the only place I can put the dish without having to cut any branches or dig holes on the wall. It even works for the 119.0 satellite!

Now I need to lobby the missus. Any applet that will help me with that? :rolleyes:



Excellent!
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Posted 06 October 2006 - 06:32 PM

I recently had an AT9 dish installed with an HR 10 (anticipating an HR 20 down the road - supposedly this coming Tuesday!) and wanted to use the sun test to make sure that the dish can get the two extra satelites received by the HR 20 (though I've heard it more than likely will since they're near the 101 sat). Unfortunately it was cloudy until the sun showed where the 119 sat was. But it was still very cool. The installer had told me that a couple of trees could eventually interfere with the signal from that one and with the sun I could see exactly what he was talking about and exactly which trees are potential problems. Fortunately, from what I saw today, I think he was also overreacting as these are old trees and not likely to grow enough anytime soon to interfere with the view. The sun was behind 119 at 3:01 my time and the shadow from the trees didn't hit the dish until sometime shortly after 3:30.

So, thanks for the tip and I hope it's clear tomorrow to check out the two new sats.

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 01:16 AM

Glad you found it useful!
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 01:58 PM

Had great success yesterday with this. So much better than guessing. Here's my pix. Can anyone guess which bird I have not been getting for the past couple weeks since I temporarily mounted the dish on the ground?

So, I could mount it at the peak into the brick, which my wife does not want me to do, or mount it on a pole that gets it up above the trees. The trees are all 50 years old and thus mature (unlikely to grow more). Is it unrealistic to think I can get that high on a pole without wind wreaking havoc on my signal? I may mount on the brick only about second-story high as opposed to the peak. That would be safer as I would not survive an accidental fall from the peak :)

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:19 PM

Had great success yesterday with this. So much better than guessing. Here's my pix. Can anyone guess which bird I have not been getting for the past couple weeks since I temporarily mounted the dish on the ground?

So, I could mount it at the peak into the brick, which my wife does not want me to do, or mount it on a pole that gets it up above the trees. The trees are all 50 years old and thus mature (unlikely to grow more). Is it unrealistic to think I can get that high on a pole without wind wreaking havoc on my signal? I may mount on the brick only about second-story high as opposed to the peak. That would be safer as I would not survive an accidental fall from the peak :)


It looks like you could mount on the brick above your current pole location (above that window?). Your pole could be extended that high and anchored to the brick using a couple of "monopole" braces, but it would probably look better to just mount the dish on the brick.

You didn't post your picture for the 110-deg satellite .... hopefully it's good at that location, too.
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Posted 10 October 2006 - 03:40 PM

Today was the primary day for Seattle for the Sun sighting. I was able to easily confirm many locations - super tool, thanks Litzdog911 for providing us with the information necessary to make use of this.

Although I don't need it, I can see 72.5 from a couple of locations, and 99, 101, 103, 110 and 119 with no problem from many locations. No question now as to where the AT9 will go when I eventually upgrade.

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 12:24 PM

Glad you found it useful!


Wow- what excellent info- thanks!

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Posted 11 November 2006 - 12:34 PM

Wow- what excellent info- thanks!


Glad it helped you. Of course, we're well past the optimal days to use the Sun's position until the next window in March 2007. But there are usually days every month where the moon is very close.
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Posted 14 February 2007 - 01:54 AM

Time to bump this thread again as we approach the next window in early March where the Sun's location and its shadows can help you find the best sites for a new or relocated satellite dish.

Jump back to the first message in this thread for more details. And post back here if you have any questions.
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Posted 15 February 2007 - 07:21 PM

Watch your Daylight Savings Time!

When I get a chance I will test this tool to see if it properly handles the new Daylight Savings Time dates. I'm guess it does not. If your optimum dates falls on or after March 11, 2007, double check the local time provided by the tool with the true time in UTC/GMT. You might need to adjust by one hour.
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Posted 16 February 2007 - 04:22 PM

Great tool. I've been having fits finding a spot ,amongst the trees, in Lake Tahoe to get a reliable signal from E* 129 Satellite. I've always wondered if the Sun could be used to locate a Satellite and check LNB focus on my 30" dish using small mirrors glued to the reflector. I can hardly wait until March 4th to give it a "smoke" test .

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Posted 16 February 2007 - 05:31 PM

Great tool. I've been having fits finding a spot ,amongst the trees, in Lake Tahoe to get a reliable signal from E* 129 Satellite. I've always wondered if the Sun could be used to locate a Satellite and check LNB focus on my 30" dish using small mirrors glued to the reflector. I can hardly wait until March 4th to give it a "smoke" test .


Just don't overheat the LNB. Let us know how this works.
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Posted 02 March 2007 - 11:35 AM

Can someone let me know if I am reading this right.

Lat is 34.12
Long is -84.3

so for sats
99.2W - I get Satellite position is at 201.0, so I should look on my compass for that reading?

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 04:09 PM

Can someone let me know if I am reading this right.

Lat is 34.12
Long is -84.3

so for sats
99.2W - I get Satellite position is at 201.0, so I should look on my compass for that reading?


Using the website litzdog911 linked to at the start of this thread, and entering your data...
longitude 84.3 W, lattitude 34.12 N, Satellite 99.2 W
I get an azimuth to the satellite of 205.38 degrees true, with a declination of -5.51. So your magnetic (compass) reading should be 199.87

Or, you can go outside and look at where the sun is at 10:56 am PST on March 6th. (Adjust for your time zone)

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 05:55 PM

If this blizzard clears up I'll be doing this on Sunday. I want to see how close a tree is to the edge of 99/101 to see if I have some trimming to do in the next year or so.

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Posted 02 March 2007 - 06:03 PM

If this blizzard clears up I'll be doing this on Sunday. I want to see how close a tree is to the edge of 99/101 to see if I have some trimming to do in the next year or so.


I check mine every year for the same reason. Makes it very easy to see how close interfering trees have grown.

Also, remember that any dates within a week on either side of the "ideal" dates will work fine, too.
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Posted 02 March 2007 - 07:41 PM

Thanks, I looked this afternoon since the sun was almost in the right spot and took some pictures. Now I just have to tell the installer where to put the dish since 3 different ones say that trees are in the way because they don't know where to point the dish to start with.

I'm about ready to cancel, but I can't because of Sunday Ticket.




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