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Use the Sun to Site New Satellite Dish


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#51 ONLINE   carl6

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 05:04 PM

Were those taken on the date in March when elevation and azimuth of the sun match the respective satellite(s)?


Actually last October on the correct date and time. No sunshine this March on the proper dates.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:41 PM

Actually last October on the correct date and time. No sunshine this March on the proper dates.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:51 PM

Actually last October on the correct date and time. No sunshine this March on the proper dates.

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That can be a problem for us in Seattle! I was hoping to update my photos during the March window, but no sunny days. I have photos from March 2006, but need to keep tabs on some nearby trees.

Glad this information is useful to folks!
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:54 PM

That can be a problem for us in Seattle! I was hoping to update my photos during the March window, but no sunny days. I have photos from March 2006, but need to keep tabs on some nearby trees.

Glad this information is useful to folks!

As I said above, it certainly reassured me to see the moon above those trees at the sync times. Thanks again! :)

BTW, for anyone who wondered why the picture of the 99 degree azimuth didn't seem to be in the same position as the others, I moved the tripod after that one because I thought I might not be able to get the moon in the frame at the 119 azimuth from the original camera position.

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Posted 03 July 2007 - 11:23 AM

Very nice to find this post now that I'm ready to ditch cable.

But after running the numbers for all 5 satellites, I have two questions.

First is that when I enter the satellite at 119.0, nothing happens. It seems that the largest number I can enter for the satellite is 118.2. After that there is no change. If anyone wants to check, I'm at 34.01N 118.3W

My second question is about the numbers I receive form this page (directv.com/DTVAPP/customer/dishPointer.jsp?) when I enter my zip code. It gives me 136.3 Azimuth and 46.3 Elevation. But the numbers I receive from the French Java applet never match the azimuth from the Directv website. I can get the right elevation (with satellite at 101.0) but the the right azinuth only comes with the satellite at 90.2, which I don't think it exists.

Since I'm a nubee regarding satellites I don't know if the non matching numbers matter or not, but I'm sure curious about what it means.

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remember that the usa is in WEST longitude, and NORTH lattitude.

the applet defaults to east longitude.
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 08:11 AM

Am I reading this right that the moon can be used tomorrow and Friday for this?

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 08:16 AM

And the time is showing -4 GMT but isn't Eastern time US -5 GMT?

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 08:43 AM

And the time is showing -4 GMT but isn't Eastern time US -5 GMT?



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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:18 AM

EDT is -4 GMT EST is -5 GMT


True, but we are still 5 hours behind GMT right now. We always are except for the couple weeks a year where we change before the UK does.

So basically subtract an extra hour off the time they give.

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:24 AM

True, but we are still 5 hours behind GMT right now. We always are except for the couple weeks a year where we change before the UK does.

So basically subtract an extra hour off the time they give.

GMT does NOT change with the seasons. EST is always GMT -5 and EDT is always GMT -4. BTW, GMT is now called Coordinated Universal Time. http://nist.time.gov...gi?Eastern/d/-5
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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:34 AM

GMT does NOT change with the seasons. EST is always GMT -5 and EDT is always GMT -4. BTW, GMT is now called Coordinated Universal Time. http://nist.time.gov...gi?Eastern/d/-5


Ok got it. So the UK is actually 1 hour ahead of GMT now in the summer. We have an office in the UK and it always confused me. Now I actually get it. Thanks!

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Posted 18 July 2007 - 09:36 AM

Ok got it. So the UK is actually 1 hour ahead of GMT now in the summer. We have an office in the UK and it always confused me. Now I actually get it. Thanks!

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 02:53 PM

what doe a c-band dish cost now, and can you get very much free stuff on it? wmj5@aol.com

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Posted 10 September 2007 - 04:15 PM

what doe a c-band dish cost now, and can you get very much free stuff on it? wmj5@aol.com


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Posted 17 September 2007 - 02:45 PM

Ok I am not completely sure I am reading the information correctly on the page. My GPS coordinates are:
30.39420 N
84.22738 W

I entered the information into the page and it gave me a list of dates and times. I believe it shows as Oct 5th. Can someone with a bit more experience with this application confirm this.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 03:20 PM

So I'm confused, which if those 5 sats in your list is the new one (D10)? I thought the new one was at 103, but when I checked on the site you linked, 103 is the spaceway1 sat. Is that why they are a and b? Did they park the D10 right near the Spaceway1? So now there's 6 sats?

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 03:27 PM

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2. Find your latitude and longitude (Google makes it easy). Enter your latitude/longitude on the web page where indicated. For example, for my location in Seattle I enter Longitude = 122W, Latitude = 48N




Google makes it so easy I have no idea how to do it!

Please explain, adapted to the meanest understanding.

(I tried looking up my address in maps, found it but no lat/lon info.)

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 03:45 PM

Google makes it so easy I have no idea how to do it!

Please explain, adapted to the meanest understanding.

(I tried looking up my address in maps, found it but no lat/lon info.)


What is your zip code?

Just enter your zip code here to find out your Lat and Long.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:02 PM

What is your zip code?

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80111



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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:03 PM

80111



Thanks.


You should be around 39.6158N 104.8749W

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:15 PM

So I'm confused, which if those 5 sats in your list is the new one (D10)? I thought the new one was at 103, but when I checked on the site you linked, 103 is the spaceway1 sat. Is that why they are a and b? Did they park the D10 right near the Spaceway1? So now there's 6 sats?

Thanks in advance.


There are actually multiple satellites at most orbital positions. Yes, DirecTV has two at 103 and will have two at 99 (one currently). There are three I think at 101. They are close enough together that for your aiming purposes (22000 miles away), they are in the same position.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:31 PM

Ok I am not completely sure I am reading the information correctly on the page. My GPS coordinates are:
30.39420 N
84.22738 W

I entered the information into the page and it gave me a list of dates and times. I believe it shows as Oct 5th. Can someone with a bit more experience with this application confirm this.

Thanks,
Jon


Using your lat/lon for the 101 satellite...

The satellite position is 210.78 with an elevation of 50.11 (first line of report)
On Friday Oct 5th at 2:42:35 pm the sun will be located at 211.02 with an elevation of 50.26. So at that specific time, on that specific date, the sun will be located almost exactly where the 101 satellite is in the sky.

Leaving your lat/lon and entering new satellite data...

at 2:32:56 the sun will be where 99 is,
at 2:51:38 the sun will be where 103 is,
at 3:23:13 the sun will be where 110 is,
at 4:03:37 the sun will be where 119 is.

So, at those specific times on that specific date, you can see if you have line of sight to the satellites by seeing if you have line of sight to where the sun is in the sky. Just don't look directly at the sun without proper eye protection. One way is to look at see what areas of your house or property are in the sun, and what areas are in the shade, at those times. Find a spot that is clearly in the sun at all of those times, and you can put a 5-LNB dish there.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 04:35 PM

Just a reminder for folks using this tool ....

I'm not sure that it's been updated to handle the recent changes with Daylight Savings Times. Be sure to use the GMT time and convert that to your known local time zone.
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Posted 17 September 2007 - 05:47 PM

Thanks! Just wanted to make sure I was reading the output correctly.

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Posted 17 September 2007 - 07:45 PM

You should be around 39.6158N 104.8749W

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Thanks.

I tried it out and I have no idea what it means. Couldn't it just spit out a single date and time? What's with the table? Polar angle?? Skew??? Declinator????

I guess I'll stick to something simple like transplant nephrology.:D




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