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Use the Sun to Site New Satellite Dish


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#101 OFFLINE   jwd45244

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Posted 12 February 2008 - 10:24 PM

So, I have to use a Slim line 5 lnb?

That or the AT9 "Sidecar" Dish
-- Jim D.
DirecTV sub. since 1998
Slimline w/ SWM LNB---- (mounted on CommDeck) ----> SWM Power Inserter -----> CM4002IFD Diplexer
Winegard OTA Antenna ------------------> CM7777 OTA Amplifier ----------------> CM4002IFD Diplexer
CM4002IFD Diplexer ----> STS-4 splitter ----> HR20-700 - Vizio VO32L, HR20-700 - SDTV, HR21-200 (w/ AM21) - Vizio VX42L, HR21-200 - SDTV; CM4001IFD as splitting diplexer on all legs; All networked

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#102 OFFLINE   litzdog911

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Posted 13 February 2008 - 11:18 AM

Hi, I have a 3 lnb dish running a SD DVR. If I want to put a HD DVR on this can I use a 2 lnb dish, as a second dish, to get the 2 new satellites? I live in Oklahoma. If I can do this what would be the settings for the second dish. Thanks.


See the "multiple dish" link in my signature below. There are several schemes that can work.
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#103 OFFLINE   topperdude

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 11:29 AM

Thanks for the link to this site!

I plan to use my lat/long information (44.09N,92.5W) to try and figure out if we would be able to do a pole mount on the install date for DirecTV (still out a few weeks). Per the website, looks like best time to do this might be this Sunday late morning/afternoon. However, if the snow/rain forecast holds up, I might have to go out on Saturday (assuming there isnt much difference in sun's position between saturday and sunday at the same time of the day). Thoughts?

Am also trying to figure out how to use the lyngsat website to determine which satellites carry the channels we get in our area (zip code 55901). Would appreciate any help.

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 02:44 PM

Thanks for the link to this site!

I plan to use my lat/long information (44.09N,92.5W) to try and figure out if we would be able to do a pole mount on the install date for DirecTV (still out a few weeks). Per the website, looks like best time to do this might be this Sunday late morning/afternoon. However, if the snow/rain forecast holds up, I might have to go out on Saturday (assuming there isnt much difference in sun's position between saturday and sunday at the same time of the day). Thoughts?

Am also trying to figure out how to use the lyngsat website to determine which satellites carry the channels we get in our area (zip code 55901). Would appreciate any help.

Thanks again,
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Besides Lyngsat, be sure to check out this information ....
http://www.dbstalk.c...ad.php?t=121279

You actually have a several day window on either side of the ideal dates where the sun's location will be very close.
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Posted 28 February 2008 - 03:28 PM

I used this system to check my LOS last Sunday and it worked like a charm, well, except for the clouds at 2:22 in the afternoon which caused no shadows to be seen for 119. The sun could be seen through them anyway and it looked like I had no problems from the dish to it. I mainly wanted to check to see if I had issues in the future with tree growth and was happy to see that I probably won't. I'll be in even better shape if they limit the span to 99-103 as the slides from today's presentation seemed to indicate. :)

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 06:26 PM

Can someone run the date and times for me? I can't seem to get this old computer to work on the site. I have trees all around and really would appreciate it.

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zip = 28677

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Posted 29 February 2008 - 07:01 PM

Can someone run the date and times for me? I can't seem to get this old computer to work on the site. I have trees all around and really would appreciate it.

M
zip = 28677


Your latitude = 35.8-deg N
Your longitude = 80.9-deg W

99-deg W: AZ=209-deg, EL=44.2-deg
Tues, March 4, and Wed, March 5, 18:57 GMT

101-deg W: AZ=212-deg, EL=43.3-deg
Tues, March 4 and Wed, March 5, 19:06 GMT

103-deg W: AZ=215-deg, EL=42.3-deg
Tues, March 4 and Wed, March 5, 19:15 GMT

110-deg W: AZ=224-deg, EL=38.3-deg
Wed, March 5 and Thur, March 6, 19:46 GMT

119-deg W: AZ=233-deg, EL=32.3-deg
Wed, March 5 and Thur, March 6, 20:26 GMT

Note that the window is pretty good for a few days on either side of the ideal days.
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Posted 01 March 2008 - 08:47 AM

Thanks for the quick response. I'll be out there today and tomorrow surveying the shadows.

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Posted 23 March 2008 - 10:30 AM

I marked afew spots last fall and it worked!
had to set up spare dish yesterday after thursdays and fridays high winds.
I'll be fixed on wednesday!
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Posted 23 March 2008 - 10:55 AM

I marked afew spots last fall and it worked!
had to set up spare dish yesterday after thursdays and fridays high winds.
I'll be fixed on wednesday!


Glad you found this information useful! Thanks.
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Posted 17 September 2008 - 12:08 PM

Just updated the first post in this thread to reflect information for new satellites.
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Posted 25 September 2008 - 03:57 PM

Handy tool. Thanks litzdog.

A friend of mine is trying to figure out if there is line of sight over a nearby 5 story building. Elevation is the only issue in this case (for 99/101/103) and I think 119 is blocked but they don't need 119 and want an SL3 lnb. The sun won't be in the right position for another couple weeks, but I noticed the last line of the chart results shows "The Aqr is (red circle) is".

The explanation on the page states:
"The last line gives the time when the star with a red circle is behind the satellite."

Wondering because it will be in position tonight.

What is "aqr"? part of the aquarius constellation?
In other words, how do you spot the star?

Or are you supposed to use the celestial sphere to try to ballpark the position based on the night sky around the red circle? I stopped the sphere time at the correct time, but didn't see any recognizable constellation for the red circle.

In this case, at the time per the chart, the aqr will either be too low and blocked by the building or high enough to see above the building. I know the spot to look above on the building (the azimuth), but if the star is high enough, will I know it when I see it? Is it particularly bright? part of a constellation?

I've run dishpointer which calculates the height to clear the building along the line of sight and it will be very close. Hopefully the star will be sitting right above the building if we look from the balcony spot, but how do we know if we're seeing the right star or not above the building if we look at the right time?

I am obviously confused on this point. Has anyone tried using the aqr star rather than the sun or moon?

By the way, the 99.2 satellite resulted in the lowest elevation figure out of these three:99/101/103, but only by a little less than a degree compared to 101, but I thought it was worth calculating since it may be that close to clear the building.

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Posted 26 September 2008 - 08:50 AM

tadfad:
I think it's referring to one of the stars in the Aquarius constellation ....
http://www.astro.uiu...sow/etaaqr.html

But I've never tried using stars this way. Usually there are also a few days each month where the moon sweeps across the satellite plane, and that's much easier to see.
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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:15 PM

I have taken pictures of my townhouse at the respective times indicated by this great post. Now, the question is, where do I mount my Direct TV dish? Here are my pictures from the 99.2 bird. The others to follow.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:20 PM

Here is the 101 Bird.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:23 PM

Here is the 102.8.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:27 PM

The 110 bird.

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 10:33 PM

And finally the 119.

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 12:00 AM

And finally the 119.


To the left of the upstairs window in the second photos looks like a suitable spot where no shadows appear. Note that you don't need to worry much about 110º or 119º (unless your SD locals are beamed from 119º).
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Posted 12 October 2008 - 09:28 AM

To the left of the upstairs window in the second photos looks like a suitable spot where no shadows appear. Note that you don't need to worry much about 110º or 119º (unless your SD locals are beamed from 119º).


Is there a way to tell exactly which channels will come off the 110, and 119? My zip code is 03253. Thanks in advance!




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