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#221 OFFLINE   PoitNarf

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 05:52 PM

Deal; I'll post results when it arrives - ETA is Thursday, Oct 12.


Yikes, didn't think you would actually do it! Very curious to see the results :D

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#222 OFFLINE   bbroach

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 06:02 PM

Yikes, didn't think you would actually do it! Very curious to see the results :D


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Posted 07 October 2006 - 06:19 PM

Question...I read on the thread that the HR20 will go back to using (and formatting?) the internal drive if the external drive has been removed. If this was correct, can the following scenario below be done? If this scenario has already been discussed, my apologies, but I couldn't find it in the 9 pages of threads.

1. Connect external drive and turn on HR20, so that the drive will be formatted and used by the HR20.
2. Power down HR20, replace internal drive with new off-the-shelf 750GB SATA and remove external HD.
3. Power up HR20 and have the HR20 format the internal drive for use?

#224 OFFLINE   PoitNarf

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 06:36 PM

Question...I read on the thread that the HR20 will go back to using (and formatting?) the internal drive if the external drive has been removed. If this was correct, can the following scenario below be done? If this scenario has already been discussed, my apologies, but I couldn't find it in the 9 pages of threads.

1. Connect external drive and turn on HR20, so that the drive will be formatted and used by the HR20.
2. Power down HR20, replace internal drive with new off-the-shelf 750GB SATA and remove external HD.
3. Power up HR20 and have the HR20 format the internal drive for use?


It doesn't matter if you hook up another drive internally or externally. If the drive already has the file structure that the HR20 put on it, it will not be formatted. If the drive has never been hooked up to an HR20 before, it will format it. You can just plop the drive inside the HR20 if you really want to.

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 06:43 PM

Question...I read on the thread that the HR20 will go back to using (and formatting?) the internal drive if the external drive has been removed. If this was correct, can the following scenario below be done? If this scenario has already been discussed, my apologies, but I couldn't find it in the 9 pages of threads.

1. Connect external drive and turn on HR20, so that the drive will be formatted and used by the HR20.
2. Power down HR20, replace internal drive with new off-the-shelf 750GB SATA and remove external HD.
3. Power up HR20 and have the HR20 format the internal drive for use?


It's unclear to me why you would go through this procedure to install a new internal drive (is that your objective - a bigger internal drive?). My understanding is that you simply replace the internal with a new (bigger) HD & the OS will recognize, format, and use it. I went for the eSATA solution to avoid cracking the box open on my HR20; the OS should format and use the RAID. I hope that D* will eventually support use of the internal drive at the same time as the external, giving me 1.3TB total storage.


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Posted 07 October 2006 - 06:46 PM

Has anyone hooked one of these up to an HR20 yet? I'm about to pull the trigger on one & can't see any reason why it wouldn't be compatible. I spent some time yesterday with NitroAv online support; they had no info on the HR20, but were able to tell me that the drives they are shipping are Seagate.


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Posted 07 October 2006 - 09:09 PM

I plan to get the following in the next month, or so. (I'm waiting for the PS3 to come out so I can get a larger 2.5 HDD for it at the same time I get the 3.5 drives for my HR20 in order to save on shipping and to make sure everything will work out fine.)

http://www.newegg.co...N82E16822136014

http://www.cooldrive...-sata-raid.html

The two problems I see, so far, are the eSATA connection points and SATA I or SATA II speeds of the HDDs.

There are two different types of eSATA connection points, if you can believe that. One "I" shape kind and one "L" shape kind. Which one is on the HR20 and which one is on the eSATA VAULT system?

Second, the HDD are SATA II and the SATA VAULT said something about "jumping" faster SATA II drives to make them work. Can that be done? What is that? Here's the warning: "** PLEASE NOTE: SOME NEW SATA II Drives Will REQUIRE to be Set to SATA I Speed Via Jumper for Compatibility Reasons!"

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Posted 07 October 2006 - 09:18 PM

bbroach, is that your driver's license picture? scaarrrrry....lol:eek2:
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Posted 08 October 2006 - 12:38 AM

bbroach, is that your driver's license picture? scaarrrrry....lol:eek2:


No, it's my badge pic from National Semiconductor (18 years ago); working in the silicon mines all these ears has turned my hair completely white, but I look pretty much the same.:lol:


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Posted 08 October 2006 - 08:32 AM

I plan to get the following in the next month, or so. (I'm waiting for the PS3 to come out so I can get a larger 2.5 HDD for it at the same time I get the 3.5 drives for my HR20 in order to save on shipping and to make sure everything will work out fine.)[/b]


waiting for the ps3? hr20 could be obsolete by then :lol:

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 10:18 AM

One more question. Is the E-SATA controller limited to 1.5GB/s or can it handle a 3GB/s?

Two channels of MPEG2 HD requires somewhere around 2.5MB/second. The maximum sustained transfer rate of the typical hard drive is less than 80MB/second. You would need a four-drive RAID to need 3GB/second.

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 10:21 AM

Two channels of MPEG2 HD requires somewhere around 2.5MB/second. The maximum sustained transfer rate of the typical hard drive is less than 80MB/second. You would need a four-drive RAID to need 3GB/second.


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Posted 08 October 2006 - 10:29 AM

Would this drive set in sata enclosure be a good choice? Would it work? Thanks

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#234 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 10:42 AM

Would this drive set in sata enclosure be a good choice? Would it work? Thanks

http://shop2.outpost...product/4551377


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Posted 08 October 2006 - 10:44 AM

Thanks Earl.

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 04:00 PM

One more Question.

Would adding an esata drive stop the annoying chirping noise I'm getting from the internal drive?

Thanks.

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 04:33 PM

Yes, but you could get same noise from external box, so check it first before swap disks.

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Posted 08 October 2006 - 09:02 PM

I dont need the disc space since I have 1 HR20 and 2 HD Tivos but this is sooo awesome! Everyone good luck with your drives!!! I might do this in the future if its supplemental disc space.
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Posted 09 October 2006 - 06:42 AM

I just may have to spring for an eSATA drive or a second HR20 as I'm already running out of space recording all this HD! :(

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Posted 09 October 2006 - 10:22 AM

I came up with nearly the same results.



According to DirecTV, the HR20 is capable of recording up to 200 hours of SD, up to 30 hours of MPEG2 HD, and up to 50 hours of MPEG4 HD. Based on that, here's what I've come up with.

Internal 300GB drive

  • SD: 200 Hours
  • HD (MPEG2): 30 Hours
  • HD (MPEG4): 50 Hours

External 500GB drive
  • SD: 333 Hours
  • HD (MPEG2): 50 Hours
  • HD (MPEG4): 83 Hours

External 750GB drive
  • SD: 500 Hours
  • HD (MPEG2): 75 Hours
  • HD (MPEG4): 125 Hours

External 1TB drive
  • SD: 667 Hours
  • HD (MPEG2): 100 Hours
  • HD (MPEG4): 167 Hours


This is, of course, assuming DirecTV based their estimates on the capacity of the entire hard drive instead of just what is available to us.

I'd really like an eSATA drive. :D

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I actually got 124hrs of Mpeg2 recording with a 750GB drive. This was of course an earlier version of the software so not sure if the D* space was restricted back then...
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