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How do they get "What's Hot"?


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#41 OFFLINE   hasan

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 04:56 PM

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#42 OFFLINE   moonman

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 05:07 PM

Related:
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The Evening Bridge - October 25, 2006
TOP STORY - Nielsen said it will provide audience measurement services for 49 television entities associated with News Corp. The deal covers the FOX Broadcasting Company, FOX News Channel, FX, SPEED, National Geographic Channel, Fox Soccer Channel, Fox Sports Net, Fox Sports en Espanol, DIRECTV, Twentieth Television and Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation, the companies said.

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 05:08 PM

Well there you go! I am wrong!

I still think NDS put monitoring devices in the box! I'm gonna put tape over the "EOT" :grin:
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Posted 25 October 2006 - 07:31 PM

My HR-20 called DirectTV twice last night :

Oct 25, 2006 04:18 AM 18667092073 00:01:00
Oct 25, 2006 12:17 AM 18667092073 00:01:00

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Posted 25 October 2006 - 10:15 PM

My HR-20 called DirectTV twice last night :

Oct 25, 2006 04:18 AM 18667092073 00:01:00
Oct 25, 2006 12:17 AM 18667092073 00:01:00



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Posted 26 October 2006 - 01:02 AM

Well there you go! I am wrong!

I still think NDS put monitoring devices in the box! I'm gonna put tape over the "EOT" :grin:


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Posted 26 October 2006 - 04:53 AM

My HR-20 called DirectTV twice last night :

Oct 25, 2006 04:18 AM 18667092073 00:01:00
Oct 25, 2006 12:17 AM 18667092073 00:01:00


I got Vonage and you can check all the phone calls dialed from you're web account. I saw it in there.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 09:25 AM

I just got Vonage, but it hasn't phoned home yet. Before that there was no phone hooked up, so I don't know if that has something to do with it. Perhaps it doesn't check as often when it fails a few times. That or it doesn't do it very often at all.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 11:39 AM

100 is an ample sample of 15,000,000 ??

Sorry about that! :D didn't realize until I read it!

that is 100 per minute per time zone which on a 30 minute show gives plenty of data.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 12:30 PM

that is 100 per minute per time zone which on a 30 minute show gives plenty of data.



It's a mute point because indeed that's how D* collects the data thru IRD call-in!

However, once I finnish covering the "EOT" with tinfoil as Litz suggested, I am going to do a scientific study. It seems to me, that every time I have checked "What's Hot", whatever is on ESPN at that time is the #1 show. Now, I can only recall checking weekdays between 4 and 6 pm, so I am going to log over the next couple of weeks (time of day, day of week, top 5 shows) and see what kinda of results we get!!!
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 12:45 PM

And...how would that address the program airing at 10:00 a.m. ? Do you really think there are thousands of outgoing calls being made 24 hours per day from D* subscribers phoning home? Get a grip.


So, Hasan... did you get a grip? You were wrong. And DirecTv since 1993. I think not since they didn't start until 1994.
C'mon people, it's just TV.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 01:13 PM

So, Hasan... did you get a grip? You were wrong. And DirecTv since 1993. I think not since they didn't start until 1994.


It's not real time.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 02:00 PM

Why is no one mentioning the actual reported data?

It is almost impossible for me to believe that some of the Top Watched stuff is even being shown.

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Posted 26 October 2006 - 02:08 PM

Why is no one mentioning the actual reported data?

It is almost impossible for me to believe that some of the Top Watched stuff is even being shown.


So, what are you saying? You don't find what they are reporting credible? :rolleyes:

You think D* would minipulate the data!:nono2:

Well, when I finnish my "scientific" investigation, we'll get to the bottom of this!:sure:
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Posted 26 October 2006 - 02:21 PM

Well, when I finnish my "scientific" investigation, we'll get to the bottom of this!:sure:


in my opinion, the Swedes were always a little better at the research.

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Posted 07 July 2007 - 02:58 PM

Here's some interesting information from a recent interview with Steve Tranter, Director of Interactive Delivery for NDS Americas:

[itvt]: Any other new features you've recently added or are planning to add to MediaHighway?

Tranter: One new feature that was launched in the last version of the middleware and has now actually been implemented on a number of pay-TV platforms is our audience measurement system. We have a very robust way of measuring usage on the set-top box, and then securely storing and reporting back that data. Basically any specific type of button press that you want to track can be tracked: it's down to the platform operator how this feature is utilized--and how they utilize it on each channel usually has to do with their specific carriage deals and legislation.

Among other things, it allows them to get very accurate measurement of interactive services. If you're offering a game, for example, you want to know how many people are actually playing it; how often they're playing it; whether they're playing it after the second level or just stop at that point because it becomes too onerous; whether they're skipping various features of the game; and so forth. Obviously, this kind of detailed measurement of viewers' interactions with an application provides you with very useful feedback. So our middleware allows operators to collect all this data on the set-top box, and it's usually encrypted and anonymized, depending on the privacy laws of each country, and then fed back via the return-path mechanism, such as a telephone line or a DOCSIS modem.

[itvt]: Which operators are taking advantage of this measurement feature?

Tranter: DirecTV are using it and BSkyB has been using it for at least a year now. They're currently using it to measure usage in a focus group of about 20,000 set-tops, which I believe they are going to ramp up to about 100,000 homes. They're using it to ascertain viewing of their programming, of course, and also to track things like how their guide is used and how their interactive applications are used.

[itvt]: Why are they only planning to measure usage in 100,000 households? Why not measure usage for their entire subscriber base?

Tranter: They could implement this for their entire audience base, but 100,000 is such a statistically significant sample that they don't really need to.


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So basically, what we know now is, how DIRECTV can collect this information, what information DIRECTV can collect (EVERYTHING!!!!), and about how many people they collect this info from. And from this info, you could probably conclude that DIRECTV probably only collects the What's Hot info from a few hundred boxes and calls it enough. Case closed, I think.

And let me just ETA to say that this interview is amazing if you want to see what could be possible in DIRECTV's future. Things like way more advanced interactive content and P2P sharing!




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