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Poll: Can an undefeated Louisville Cardinal team make it to the BCS Championship Game (20 member(s) have cast votes)

Can an undefeated Louisville Cardinal team make it to the BCS Championship Game

  1. YES! GO CARDS! (7 votes [35.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.00%

  2. No. A One Loss SEC school or Big Ten school will go first. (9 votes [45.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.00%

  3. Maybe, depends on their style win over Rutgers or Pitt (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

  4. College football... what's that? (2 votes [10.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 10.00%

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#26 OFFLINE   SamC

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 06:06 AM

A "tournament" would ruin college football.

In any event, the talking heads that argue about the non-conference schedules of Leastleftovers teams compared to the non-conference schedlues of True Majors miss the point entirely.

The issue is the CONFERENCE schedule of the Leastleftovers that is weak. They play each other.

This is a play that we will see over and over. The True Majors will eliminate each other and a Leastleftover will sail through its cupcake filled league of marginal programs.

Its just a different level.

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#27 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 11:17 AM

Again... look at Ohio State's schedule of cupcakes... most of those are in their conference. Most of their conference is not very good this year either. They aren't even playing the other good team (Wisconsin) in their own league this year!

Let me ask this... if you think you can rank a team based on your own perceptions without them actually playing against other teams you rank ahead of them... would you like your own job performance to be evaluated the same way? Say your salary is determined not by your boss who actually sees you work every day, but by bosses at other companies who deem your job "easier" than their employees and thus you should be paid less.

Also... the same "experts" who are ranking the teams about the Big East now... are the same experts who had Florida St and Miami and Penn St in the top 10 pre-season! The ONLY reason to have Florida St and Miami in the pre-season top 10 is because of reputation and nothing to do with this year at all... and as has played out during the season, neither team was very good. In fact virtually ALL the experts had Florida St as a favorite last night against Wake Forest... and Wake beat them badly (30-0) in Tallahassee... so how do you think the "experts" are doing ranking teams?

Maybe if this "tournament would ruin football" feeling is correct, we should stop all tournaments. Why have it in the NFL? Or basketball if you want to stay with college sports... let's just use the polls to determine the top-2 NCAA teams and play one basketball game at the end of the year too.

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 12:30 PM

I saw Corso on PTI... and he slammed the Big East for playing against Cincinnati... but Ohio State scheduled Cincinnati too! I notice he didn't slam them...


I guess Corso forgot that Cincinnati is in the Big East and therefore must be played. Just like all the SEC teams have to play perrenial pushover Kentucky and Vandy...
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#29 OFFLINE   Stewart Vernon

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Posted 12 November 2006 - 04:01 PM

I guess Corso forgot that Cincinnati is in the Big East and therefore must be played. Just like all the SEC teams have to play perrenial pushover Kentucky and Vandy...


Yep... maybe he hasn't adjusted to the new conference alignments. I admit, I have a hard time reminding myself that Lousville and Cincinnati are Big East now... especially during basketball season where the Big East is huge and lots of talent top to bottom.

Even before joining the Big East, I got to see Louisville play a couple of times as NC State had them on the schedule for a couple of years there... always confused me because the colors of the jerseys were so similar it was sometimes hard to tell which team was which when you first turned on the football game!

I'm still hoping for more collapse of the 1-loss teams to help out Rutgers if they stay undefeated.

I admit (and I'm guessing you share this) I was confused when I saw the new polls this morning... The AP has #7 Rutgers, #8 WVU, #10 Louisville. The Coaches poll has #7 WVU, #8 Rutgers, and #12 Louisville.

I figured it would be more like 7-8-9 with Rutgers, Louisville, then WVU... since WVU was beaten solidly by Louisville it made no sense to move WVU back in front again... and with Rutgers undefeated it makes sense to rank them above WVU who was beaten by the team they just beat.

But nobody ever said the folks voting in the polls made sound voting decisions!

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 12:36 AM

I hope the actual voters have more common sense that Corso.

If you are scheduling your teams out of conference games today, then you are making your 2011 schedule, cause everything else has been scheduled years in advance.

If you go to www.nationalchamps.net, you can see every teams future schedule.

What a coach that is hired today should do is recruit for his own team, then take some time to recruit for his opponents four years down the road. Can you see Charlie Weiss doing that? "well, if not ND, maybe you'd like to play in Pittsburgh, or serve your country in the Navy"

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 02:18 AM

What a coach that is hired today should do is recruit for his own team, then take some time to recruit for his opponents four years down the road. Can you see Charlie Weiss doing that? "well, if not ND, maybe you'd like to play in Pittsburgh, or serve your country in the Navy"


That's a great point! Lots of folks that had Miami or Florida St on the schedule this year are getting good wins that mean nothing. Florida from the SEC, for instance, may very well be playing a Florida St team with a losing record! In past years that would have been a top 10 matchup.

Even with normal 4-year turnover you don't know what a school will be like by the time you schedule them to play you... and then with folks leaving early and injuries, there is no way of knowing if that powerhouse schedule you set up for 2011 will actually be a good one once it gets here!

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 04:52 AM

Teams above my Cards...

1. Ohio State

One game left - 11/18 vs. Michigan

2. Michigan

One game left - 11/18 at Ohio State

3. USC

Three games left - 11/18 vs. California, 11/25 vs. Notre Dame, 12/2 at UCLA

4. Florida

Three games left - 11/18 vs. Western Carolina, 11/25 at Florida State the SEC Title Game vs. Arkansas

5. Notre Dame

Two games left - 11/18 vs. Army 11/25 at USC

6. Rutgers

Three games left - 11/18 at Cincinnati, 11/25 vs. Syracuse, 12/2 at West Virginia

7. Arkansas

Three games left - 11/18 at Mississippi State, 11/24 vs. LSU, then SEC Title Game vs. Florida

8. West Virginia

Three games left - 11/16 at Pitt, 11/25 vs. South Florida, 12/2 vs. Rutgers

9. Wisconsin

One game left - 11/18 vs. Buffalo

10. Louisville

Three games left - 11/18 vs. South Florida, 11/25 at Pittsburgh, 12/2 Connecticut


Best bet for my Cards to get a Top 6 BCS and an automatic bid:

  • Louisville wins out, impressively
  • Florida and Arkansas win out, then Florida win SEC Title Game
  • Rutgers wins out, including at WVU
  • USC thumps Notre Dame

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  • Rutgers and WVU lose 2 of next 3 games and Louisville wins out - goes as Big East Champ

Having said all this, I love my Cardinals 8-1 or 1-8, I love them, their my alma mater and as was sung in the '60s you gotta be true to your school...
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Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:07 AM

Wait a minute, didn't you guys beat WVU....how are you all lower than them now?


If Rutgers wins out, you have your best chance to pull an at large with 1 loss, since the SEC teams will have at least 2, and WVU will drop. If WVU beats Rutgers, they are the Big East babyface, and the voters will elevate them and drop everyone else just out of anti-Big East bias.

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Posted 13 November 2006 - 11:17 AM

Wait a minute, didn't you guys beat WVU....how are you all lower than them now?


If Rutgers wins out, you have your best chance to pull an at large with 1 loss, since the SEC teams will have at least 2, and WVU will drop. If WVU beats Rutgers, they are the Big East babyface, and the voters will elevate them and drop everyone else just out of anti-Big East bias.


Yeah, don't get me started on that one... I think that my four items are pretty good. It would give the help for Louisville to get the Top 6 auto at-large...
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