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#1 OFFLINE   Johnboat

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 08:36 AM

Wow since the cutting edge update I am having bad lip syncing japaneses movie talk issues. Also the audio issue is better but not completely fixed. Is anyone else having the lip sync issue?

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 08:57 AM

Wow since the cutting edge update I am having bad lip syncing japaneses movie talk issues. Also the audio issue is better but not completely fixed. Is anyone else having the lip sync issue?


Yes, I am having very bad lip syncing as well but it is pretty much all the local mpeg 4 CBS (KDKA) out of Pittsburgh that is the culprit and it has been happening for quite a while. I downloaded x120 the other night hoping that would help my problem but it persisted even after x120. When watching CSI and other shows it is unbearable. I have tried switching the channels, running the sound through my TV, through my amp, switching from PCM to DD, from surround to stereo, basically everything I could think of.

I thought maybe it was the local CBS but others I have talked to say their OTA CBS signal doesn't have the lip sync problems I am seeing. I am at a loss as to what it is.
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#3 OFFLINE   jmschnur

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 08:57 AM

I reported this in the 120 isse thread. Mine occured when I went between a SD station and a House that was also being recorded.

I fiexed it by stopping the recording and then going to anotehr channel and back to the local Mpeg4 Fox station.

The audio was several! seconds out of synch.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 09:14 AM

I reported this in the 120 isse thread. Mine occured when I went between a SD station and a House that was also being recorded.

I fiexed it by stopping the recording and then going to anotehr channel and back to the local Mpeg4 Fox station.

The audio was several! seconds out of sync.

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Mine is also serveral seconds out of sync, the video is several seconds ahead of the sound.

Very rarely I can fix it if I switch channels but most of the time it does nothing. Also if a show is recorded with lip sync problems nothing can fix it no matter how many times I pause it, start it again, or fast forward and rewind.

The funny this is though it is 90% of the time my mpeg 4 CBS station (KDKA).
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#5 OFFLINE   jimmy boots

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 09:14 AM

I noticed this also on 0x11f and 0x120.
On nationwide HD channels like ESPN and TNTHD.

The interesting thing is that while it was very, very noticable on the first day after download of 0x120, on the second day it was much better. Perhaps it is related to other processes running a lot in the background early after reboot.

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Posted 31 January 2007 - 10:04 AM

I noticed this also on 0x11f and 0x120.
On nationwide HD channels like ESPN and TNTHD.

The interesting thing is that while it was very, very noticable on the first day after download of 0x120, on the second day it was much better. Perhaps it is related to other processes running a lot in the background early after reboot.


Mine never got better with 0x11f and previous versions. Hopefully with 0x120 it might get better...
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Posted 31 January 2007 - 07:16 PM

I'm running 11F and had major sync issues with my local fox mpeg channel when watching Prison Break Monday night, but the local news seems fine now. Did the upgrade on Sunday evening.

How much housekeeping does the thing have to do after an upgrade?

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 08:43 AM

HAs anyone tried the analoug audio outputs from the HR20. I have both optical and analoug connected to my reciever and only the optical is out of sync. The stereo analoug works fine. Horay for Dolby Pro Logic:D

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 09:01 AM

HAs anyone tried the analoug audio outputs from the HR20. I have both optical and analoug connected to my reciever and only the optical is out of sync. The stereo analoug works fine. Horay for Dolby Pro Logic:D


Out of everything I have done to fix the problem I have not tried that. I can't believe I didn't think of that. I have been using the HDMI and Optical out for testing.

When I get home today I will have to try it out. Thanks for the suggestion! :D
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Posted 01 February 2007 - 06:18 PM

Wow since the cutting edge update I am having bad lip syncing japaneses movie talk issues. Also the audio issue is better but not completely fixed. Is anyone else having the lip sync issue?


Wow.. when I saw the topic heading, I thought this was a Milli Vanilli thread..

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 06:46 PM

Lip Sync Problem:

I have it. (Live and recorded)!

I hate it.

Please make it go away!

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Posted 01 February 2007 - 07:39 PM

I am having the same problem. I have tv connected to hr20 with HDMI and am only listening to audio through the TV.

I don't believe it has anything to do with analog vs digital. It doesn't occur all the time, but rather is sporadic. While I do pick up the Pittsburgh feeds, I haven't noticed it being primarily on one channel before. I will take note of this from now on.

Right now I am experiencing very slight audio delays (not the full second variety) on CBS and ABC locals. NBC (which happens to be recording) has no delay. In the past though, I have experienced very significant delays which make the program almost unwatchable.

Unrelated info: I originally had a problem echo from my tv sound to stereo sound with HDMI from HR20 to TV and composite from HR20 to receiver. I corrected that problem by connecting audio from TV to receiver instead of from HR20.

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:15 AM

Smallville on CW has been doing it ever since I got this recorder. about .5 second off sync.

ABC HD recordings have been really bad, 5 to 7 seconds off sync, video ahead of audio...Interestingly, American Idol, House and other channels you guys report as out of sync are ok for me, so far.

Yes, I concur, please make it go away.

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 07:21 AM

I hooked up my HR20 last night with a Red and White analog stereo connection instead of using the HDMI or Optical audio and it didn't change anything. I still had the lip syncing problem. :nono2:

I am glad someone else is seeing the Pittsburgh audio sync problems on ABC and CBS. NBC and FOX are perfect, we watched the O.C., American Idol, My Name is Earl, and the Office last night and recently and all were perfectly in sync. We then watched Grey's Anatomy which was slightly off, and slightly annoying, and then CSI which was way off and almost unwatchable. I also watched a little bit of Shark just to compare and it was way off as well!

So it seems as though the ABC (WTAE) Pittsburgh mpeg 4 feed is slightly off and the CBS (KDKA) Pittsburgh mpeg 4 feed is quite a bit off. Those are the ONLY channels SD or HD that show any lip syncing problems for me at all. Is this an HR20 problem, a station problem (I don't think it is because I have seen the OTA feed and have friends that have HD OTA and they report no problems), or a DirecTV mpeg 4 conversion problem? Any way it is very, very annoying and I hope it gets fixed soon.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 08:08 AM

Using HDMI too, and lip sync on ABC local is unreal. The voice says one thing, and the picture show another (it's off that much) when they cut to commercials or back again. Tried red and white analog plugs, no difference. Never had this problem before 120.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 12:58 PM

I always have lip sync issues watching recorded Letterman (local CBS HD on satellite). Had same problem with previous firmware releases as well.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:35 PM

I had it on the previous national version than 120 a couple times. I just powered off the unit and TV and then powered them back on. Cured it. Changing channels did nothing for me.

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 04:54 PM

When I get the audio from the HR20 I have sync problems. So I pick up the audio for my amplifier from the tv jacks and I am in sync most of the time. It is always out of sync from the HR20 I use HDMI cables and switching to composite and sep audio cables did not fix the problem.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 03:38 PM

I noticed bad lip synch ons several of my recorded shows (mostly local mpeg 4's). I did a reset of the HR20 using the "reset" in the setup menu. That fixed the problem and the previously unwatchable recordings are now OK.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 08:43 PM

Yeah I say mine is better since I reset my recorder also but my wife claims it's not. Shes nuts




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