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Bad hardware or this is the quality to expect

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#1 OFFLINE   mobilecommand


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Posted 02 April 2007 - 07:55 AM


I finally took the plunge over the weekend and got Dishnetwork installed, I got a Vip22 in the main room and a standard DVR for the main bedroom... After playing with the system all weekend i think the Vip22 is a good box, i love the DVR over Cox Cable and i think the entire dual tuner thing is kinda nifty.

My Issue that i am running into is are SD programming really that bad or is it my setup.. I am running a Mitsubishi 65inch DLP with a Denon Receiver that has HDMI switching/pass though. I look at any of the HD channels and they come in a ton better then i could ever get on my cox cable and i am very very happy with the HD quality but who can only watch the HD channels ?

When i look at the SD programming its not very clear, its actually fairly fuzzy compaired to my Cox Sd channels, its not quite artifacting but its not crisp/clear. I will also mention that majority of the channels are comming in as 2 channel stereo not dolby 5.1 like Cox cable for the same channel or movie "non hd"

I am not trying to start a flame war of anytype but more looking at my expectations of what i just bought and if there can be any tweaks or modifications to my system to improve quaility.

So far i have tried the following..

Reset my tv and colors,
Tried Component vs hdmi
1080I Vs 720 p at 4/3 and 16/9 "sd comes in a little better with 720P but hd seams seams better at 1080I"
HDMI/Component though the reciever
HDMI/Component directly to the TV

Nothing really seams to crisp up the screen. I understand it will not be perfect but i though the SD channels would come it better then what they are today..

Any thoughs and suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



P.s if this is in the wrong forum sorry..

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#2 OFFLINE   heisman



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Posted 02 April 2007 - 08:05 AM

...is the SD programming really that bad or is it my setup...

It's really that bad. SD looks better @ 480i, while HD looks better @ 1080i or 720p. Unfortunately, the 622 does not have a native/pass thru resolution setting, and it's a pain in the butt to change the resolution setting all the time. My solution to this is using the s-video output for SD viewing and HDMI for HD viewing. The s-video connection has improved the SD for me quite a bit. Give it a try, maybe it will help you too.

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 10:20 AM


How do i get s video and Component/hdmi with optical all working at the same time and how will the vip622 know what content i want though which interface ?

Will i have to wire it though my reciever and switch video inputs based on channel


DBS uses optical 1 and Component
Tv uses Svideo and optical ?

Any info will be great


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Posted 02 April 2007 - 10:24 AM

All outputs on the 622 are hot at all times - HDMI/Composite/Component/RF (if not disabled)

All you have to do is connect your equipment and decide what 622 outputs you wish to use.
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Posted 02 April 2007 - 11:08 AM

well i will poke away at the system this evening and see what i can come up with..

Not really thrilled about swapping cables each time i wanna watch content,

unless i go comp* and optical to the reciever and s video to the tv then manually switch tv from hdmi to s video when i watch sd content..

Wow my head hurts..

I will let you know how it works out...

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 05:41 PM


Not really thrilled about swapping cables each time i wanna watch content,

As has already been stated, you do not need to "swap" cables - all of the outputs are "hot" at the same time. You may want to switch the selected inputs to your TV to optimize the SD. :rolleyes:

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Posted 02 April 2007 - 06:51 PM

Yo MC,

As Salty stated, you don't need to switch cables. Just plug both of the cables in to your set from the 622. They will use separate input #'s on your set. For instance, my SD is on input 1, while my HD is on input 5. My remote allows me to toggle between the 2 by hitting 1 button, so it's very simple. Alot easier than changing the resolution settings everytime in the 622's menu. Once again, it's just a suggestion that worked for me, maybe it's not for everyone. Good luck!

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 02:31 AM

on my 2nd tv in sd, i also noted the fuzzy pic.......it was pretty awful.....i tried changing the resolution......(still fuzzy). i thought it was due to my cheaper tv...... & then something else occured to me.........the channel used was 60.
i changed the tuning channel to a lower number.. (25). now the channels come out just as expected for sd.........no more fuzziness. under installation.......& then modulator setup..

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Posted 03 April 2007 - 06:04 AM

65" is a lot of screen to stretch 480i across.

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