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Blackouts lifted for Cards games, not on E*


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#1 OFFLINE   Satelliteracer

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 10:38 AM

As I mentioned the other day, comparing cable to E* to D* in each market is not appropriate, there are so many agreements and the rules are different from league to league, etc.

I know it "sounds easy", but it is incredibly complex because of all the various RSNs involved and various territories (which have sub territories).

At any rate, an interesting article today


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#2 OFFLINE   wmschultz

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 10:50 AM

I am so confused. I get FSN Midwest on channel 647 and have seen all of the games broadcast on there. So what does this mean?

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 10:54 AM

I am so confused. I get FSN Midwest on channel 647 and have seen all of the games broadcast on there. So what does this mean?


The blackout applied to states that surrounded Missouri. Where I live, I get FSN Midwest through the sports pack, FSN Midwest wanted their programming moved from the sports pack to the basic packages and until that happened, FSN Midwest requested that D* blackout the Cardnails games in my area.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 10:59 AM

The blackout applied to states that surrounded Missouri. Where I live, I get FSN Midwest through the sports pack, FSN Midwest wanted their programming moved from the sports pack to the basic packages and until that happened, FSN Midwest requested that D* blackout the Cardnails games in my area.


Are you sure they actually HAVE moved FSM into the basic pkg - the article only says "confirmed that the network is working on a resolution with DirecTV", so I am NOT sure this means this has been done; only that people that USED to gets the Cards in their territories can do so again. ;) ;)

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 10:59 AM

Yeah, I just figured that out. Thanks. I had to go to D* website to see what the big deal was. As soon as I
used a surrounding area's zipcode, I saw what the article is talking about.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:01 AM

Are you sure they actually HAVE moved FSM into the basic pkg - the article only says "confirmed that the network is working on a resolution with DirecTV", so I am NOT sure this means this has been done; only that people that USED to gets the Cards in their territories can do so again. ;) ;)


Don't know as I already have the sports pack.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:02 AM

So was this why D* wasn't offering FSN Midwest HD to us, too? Or is that something different?

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:02 AM

I am so confused. I get FSN Midwest on channel 647 and have seen all of the games broadcast on there. So what does this mean?

I think it means people living in Central & Western Illinois will be considered "in-market" for Chicago Cubs, Chicago White Sox, AND NOW the St. Louis Cardinals too .... meaning they won't be blacked out from any of those teams and PROBABLY won't need MLB-EI to see any of those games (aka: part of their basic package).

You live in Missouri so you were in the Cardinals market the whole time.
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:08 AM

meaning they won't be blacked out from any of those teams and PROBABLY won't need MLB-EI to see any of those games (aka: part of their basic package).


We never DID need MLB-EI to see these games - & it would NOT have done any good to have. (EI is for OOM games; the Cards are considered in-market for us)

Maybe you really meant to say the Sport Pak, which is what we DO (currently) need to see the Cards on FSM. ;) ;)

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:15 AM

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:20 AM

Maybe you really meant to say the Sport Pak, which is what we DO (currently) need to see the Cards on FSM. ;) ;)


That's the boat i'm in with the Cardnails, Twins, & Brewers.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 11:39 AM

Can I take this as a good omen for the similar situation with Fox Sports Detroit and Tigers games in Northwest Ohio?

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 12:05 PM

So was this why D* wasn't offering FSN Midwest HD to us, too? Or is that something different?


Me too. I would like to see Directv offer more of FSN Midwest programming in HD. They have 37 games this year in HD.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 12:50 PM

D* would love to offer more FSN Midwest programming to you in HD. Its FSN Midwest thats only putting out those 37 games. D* is only transmitting to you what FSN Midwest puts out HD wise.
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 01:04 PM

No, they are not. We don't really get FSN Midwest HD feeds.
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 01:13 PM

http://www.directv.c...assetId=2300004

Doesn't appear that Fox Sports Midwest is on the list. IF FSMW is pulling this kind of stunt I can probably understand why there isn't an HD agreement.

However, if they do have one and the web site just isn't updated, you'll find the HD games on channel 96 or 97. They are in MPEG4 and you'd need an H20 or HR20 to get them.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 01:14 PM

D* would love to offer more FSN Midwest programming to you in HD. Its FSN Midwest thats only putting out those 37 games. D* is only transmitting to you what FSN Midwest puts out HD wise.


No they don't. We will be lucky if they only broadcast 1/3 of them. I am saying I wish D* would broadcast all of them.

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 01:17 PM

http://www.directv.c...assetId=2300004

Doesn't appear that Fox Sports Midwest is on the list. IF FSMW is pulling this kind of stunt I can probably understand why there isn't an HD agreement.

However, if they do have one and the web site just isn't updated, you'll find the HD games on channel 96 or 97. They are in MPEG4 and you'd need an H20 or HR20 to get them.


When D* does broadcast FSN Midwest HD it is on channel 95. Maybe Satelliteracer can answer this question. Is the problem with FSN Midwest not having an HD agreement with D* or is it just a capacity problem?

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Posted 12 April 2007 - 02:47 PM

When D* does broadcast FSN Midwest HD it is on channel 95. Maybe Satelliteracer can answer this question. Is the problem with FSN Midwest not having an HD agreement with D* or is it just a capacity problem?


I've wanted to know the same darn thing for a while now. I don't think it would take that much bandwith for D* to add fsn mw in hd for the st. louis area.
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Posted 12 April 2007 - 02:50 PM

I've wanted to know the same darn thing for a while now. I don't think it would take that much bandwith for D* to add fsn mw in hd for the st. louis area.


I wonder if they have room to put it on the MPEG4 spot beam that we get our locals on?




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