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D* Downrezzing NESN HD to 720P?


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#41 OFFLINE   tonyd79

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:34 PM

No, the MPEG4 channel is being shown at 720p now, not the EI channel.


Oh. Now I understand. Although when you go from MPEG2 to MPEG4, it is already non-native. (Not pass-thru.) Wonder what additional affect there is.

BTW, the picture is messy today on MPEG2. But then NESN is probably beholden to the local folks when on the road.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 04:34 AM

Oh. Now I understand. Although when you go from MPEG2 to MPEG4, it is already non-native. (Not pass-thru.) Wonder what additional affect there is.

BTW, the picture is messy today on MPEG2. But then NESN is probably beholden to the local folks when on the road.


At 1080i, the MPEG4 version of NESNHD was sharp with only occasional hiccups. At 720p, it's really fuzzy and lacks detail.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 10:08 AM

Agreed. Had an HR20 installed last week and am not at all happy w/NESN HD. Yesterday was very fuzzy and not sharp at all.

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 10:52 AM

I think that all the NESN broadcasts this weekend were of poor quality HD. I'm not sure if that 's DTV's fault or if it's related to the fact that they were on the road and at the mercy of what the Tigers had to offer the visiting teams network. Maybe all Tigers game have poor HD?

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 01:39 PM

It could have been that they were out of market but regardless i prefer 720p over 1080i

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Posted 09 July 2007 - 03:13 PM

CBS football broadcasts (1080i) are head and shoulders clearer than Fox's (720p). I can tell whose broadcast I'm looking at simply by looking at any wide view of the stadium.

Many of the Fox so-called HD NFL broadcasts were not in true HD. They were upconverting SD feeds from the game to 720P. Upconverted HD will never look as good as true HD, whether its 1080i or 720p.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 04:22 PM

Many of the Fox so-called HD NFL broadcasts were not in true HD. They were upconverting SD feeds from the game to 720P. Upconverted HD will never look as good as true HD, whether its 1080i or 720p.


I think they only did that for a maximum of one game per week (when they went over 6) and it was widescreen only to the local teams, not on NFL ST.
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Posted 10 July 2007 - 04:27 AM

I might be wrong or it could be a coincidence, but I think I figured out what's going on here. When NESN (MPEG4 version) was at 1080i, the channel/slide for FSNEHD (ch 96) was at 720p. Now the D* slide on 96 is at 1080i and NESN is at 720p. I assume they share the same transponder.

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Posted 13 July 2007 - 06:20 AM

I have to say I have noticed a big difference in PQ and am not very happy about it. I am really getting tired of D* and their antics and if things don't change come Sept then FIOS will be an option for me. I have the new slimline dish that I find not to be all that hot with rain fade and what not. I do have a tech coming out tomorrow to adjust the dish but this is such a pain in the ass having to wait around a 4 hour window for him to hopefully show up. I have wasted many hours of my life on D* issues in the past and getting to the point of just saying screw it and move on. I have been with them 11 years now and the hook is ST but even that is getting to the point of not having much value anymore and also way to expensive.




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