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#1 OFFLINE   Slyster

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 01:14 AM

OK... so after all these weeks and weeks of 'sneak peaks' when are they finally going to start this thing? Geeze! :(

And.. are there more on the way? TLC, PBS, SCI, TRAV etc?
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 02:32 AM

This has been beaten to death. Not til the new sat(s) go live, some time 2- 3 months or so after the scheduled launch in June.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 06:44 AM

This has been beaten to death. Not til the new sat(s) go live, some time 2- 3 months or so after the scheduled launch in June.


Don't know why it's taking this long... Comcast just added NGC HD to my lineup on my SA8300HD...
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 06:59 AM

Here we go with yet another thread about D* and NGC. :rolleyes:

Don't know why it's taking this long...

I don't know why you don't know why. If you've been keeping
up with the plethora of redundant posts on this same topic
from multitudes of anxious D* subs, you should know why.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:01 AM

Don't know why it's taking this long... Comcast just added NGC HD to my lineup on my SA8300HD...


Three words; bandwidth.....bandwidth....bandwidth. Hence the need to wait until the new birds go live in Q3 this year (hopefully).

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:02 AM

This has probably been asked a million times too, but why do they need to wait until 2-3 months after the new satellite has been launched?

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:13 AM

This has probably been asked a million times too, but why do they need to wait until 2-3 months after the new satellite has been launched?


Someone who knows more about satellites than I do can give you a more detailed answer, but you don't just pop a bird into orbit and flip a switch. They don't "need to" wait 2-3 months, that's just how long it will take.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:14 AM

It just doesn't seem like it took 2-3 months with previous launches. Maybe a month from what I remember when the last spot sat went up (what was that 7s?)

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 07:21 AM

It just doesn't seem like it took 2-3 months with previous launches. Maybe a month from what I remember when the last spot sat went up (what was that 7s?)


However long it takes, it is the result of "shake down" and housekeeping. They can't afford to release as sat for use and have the "up/downs".

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 09:50 AM

easy fella' remember: All good things...

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 02:58 PM

... come to an end. :)
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Posted 29 April 2007 - 03:56 PM

The Spaceway satellites had a very long in-orbit testing and configuration period before being "turned on" for video. This was because these satellites were using a new frequency band (Ka) not previously used (by DirecTV) for DTH delivery and they employ phased array transmitting antennas, which had also never been done before (by anyone).

Now that they have the Ka experience, I wouldn't be surprised to see the more "traditional" DirecTV 10 & 11 go into service more quickly (more like the usual 4 to 6 weeks after launch).

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 04:32 PM

The spaceways took a long time to shakedown as they are unique. They are the first Boeing phased-arrays for transmission to earth and therefore EXTREMELY configurable.

D10 and D11 going up this year are more traditional transponder/reflector satellites and "should" be quicker to configure. But it still takes time to unfurl the solar power arrays, test the uplink/downlink facilities (both dish and at the broadcast sites), verify each transponder for strength and location, etc. All that could be as quick as a month, but more likely about 2 months.

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Posted 29 April 2007 - 05:06 PM

The spaceways took a long time to shakedown as they are unique. They are the first Boeing phased-arrays for transmission to earth and therefore EXTREMELY configurable.

Look up Thuraya-1. I think you'll be quite surprised. Boeing has been tinkering with phased arrays at both ends since the latter '90s.

It is notable that the Spaceways combined add up to the spotbeam capability of just one of the DirecTV 1x satellites and the power consumption is about the same. Flexibility has a high price. This is why I suggested a while back that they should consider re-purposing the Spaceways back to what they were originally built for.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 12:32 AM

What does the fact that Comcast has it have to do with anything? This IS a D* forum. Last I checked, Crap, er Comcast doesnt use D*'s satelittes for programming.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:21 AM

...Last I checked, Comcast doesnt use D*'s satelittes for programming.

...and thank God for that! :icon_da:

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#17 OFFLINE   max1

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:26 AM

We gave up on D adding the NGC channel and Hd we went back with e-Everyone is correct D probably will be getting more HD Channels I would say by the Fall. It was a joke for D to put the channel up in the first place since the sneak peaks were at times you couldn't even watch them. We were disappointed in D's overall service. Max.

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 08:41 AM

We gave up on D adding the NGC channel and Hd we went back with e-Everyone is correct D probably will be getting more HD Channels I would say by the Fall. It was a joke for D to put the channel up in the first place since the sneak peaks were at times you couldn't even watch them. We were disappointed in D's overall service. Max.


So they shouldn't have put the Sneak Peaks at all?
Just because they where at a time where you could not watch them?

I managed to get about half of them DVRed and enjoyed the ones that I did.

But hey... Guess it is a joke for them to offer some of NGC's content.
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Posted 30 April 2007 - 10:08 AM

I think the Sneak Peaks send a message to subscribers that:

Yes we know you want NGC HD.
Yes we do have an agreement to show NGC HD.
Here's a look at what you are missing.
Stay tuned for more bandwidth.

At least we know that its coming save a catastrophic failure.




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