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Can the HR20 OTA Tuner Be Improved Through Software Upgrades?


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Poll: Can the HR20 OTA Tuner Be Improved Through Software Upgrades? (161 member(s) have cast votes)

Can the HR20 OTA Tuner Be Improved Through Software Upgrades?

  1. Yes (50 votes [31.06%])

    Percentage of vote: 31.06%

  2. No (37 votes [22.98%])

    Percentage of vote: 22.98%

  3. Not Sure (74 votes [45.96%])

    Percentage of vote: 45.96%

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#161 OFFLINE   veryoldschool

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 12:45 PM

VOS- in my post, I said that my first HR20 was new and all the others including the last one (-700CR) were refurbs. The new one was -700. Next came a -700R, then a -700C. All these were off the box they came in. On the current set, the label is -700, without an "S", and, a little added sticker that it is a refurb.

So what you're describing is a change from earlier "refurbs" that didn't have much more done to them other than re-boxing.
D* seems to have setup some sort of "repairing facility" that the earlier ones didn't go through.
Now I wonder if "R" are those made in Mexico & "CR" are those that were made in China?
The "S" was on the carton but not the unit as all of the -700s are silver, & I'd guess the "C" was for China also.
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Posted 09 July 2007 - 09:23 AM

VOS- it gets a little confusing, but, I think you may have it sorted out now.

I did not compare the info on the carton to what was on the set (which brings up a good point that it probably is a good thing to do!) until you raised the issue about the model numbers.

So far, the latest reurb is doing it's thing!
1. HR20-700-> (HDMI-> Samsung 5088 in media room with large "bowtie antenna in attic for OTA
2. H20-600->HDMI->Samsung 3251 in master BR, D* bowtie on roof for OTA
3. 5-LNB dish
4. Modulator from HR20->RCA cables to send DVD & D* to kitchen and other BR via cat5 wiring in house.

#163 OFFLINE   geaux tigers

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Posted 11 July 2007 - 07:43 PM

VOS- it gets a little confusing, but, I think you may have it sorted out now.

I did not compare the info on the carton to what was on the set (which brings up a good point that it probably is a good thing to do!) until you raised the issue about the model numbers.

So far, the latest reurb is doing it's thing!


I would pay DIRECTV to repair my HR20s with an advanced LG OTA chip.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 07:01 PM

Has the new CE improved the OTA tuner?

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 10:42 PM

Has the new CE improved the OTA tuner?

No. And there is no reason to suppose that any software change ever will.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 11:05 PM

No. And there is no reason to suppose that any software change ever will.

But reports in the CE thread suggest release do worsen OTA reception.
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Posted 14 July 2007 - 11:41 PM

But reports in the CE thread suggest release do worsen OTA reception.

is the keyword, as none of it can ever be repeated.
Too many other variables [some say the opposite too]
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Posted 19 July 2007 - 10:51 PM

With the introduction of the new HD receiver that does not have OTA, does this mean that DIRECTV is abandoning OTA?

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 06:22 AM

I keep reading where the VHF-lo issue was fixed with a prior software upgrade. Is it possible that it was only fixed for the "700's" and not the "100's"?

I had two HR20-100's installed this week (replacing an HR10-250 and a Samsung HD satellite receiver). The HR20's receive all my OTA signals except for Cleveland NBC's station (3-1 on digital channel 2). My Sony SXRD tuner receivers 3-1, my HD Tivo and Samsung received 3-1, and even my old first generation (Mits) satellite receiver would receive/process 3-1. Since all my other tuners processed digital channel 2 and both new HR20-100's won't, it appears to be some issue with the new DVR's.

Is anyone else getting the HR20-100 to receive/process digital channel 2 or 3 OTA signals?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 06:27 AM

With the introduction of the new HD receiver that does not have OTA, does this mean that DIRECTV is abandoning OTA?


No, it doesn't.

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 06:32 AM

is the keyword, as none of it can ever be repeated.
Too many other variables [some say the opposite too]


I really can't post responses to this nonsense any more. You'll have to carry the water at this point.

This thread reminds me of "My Cousin Vinny", where Pesci says, "I come from a long line of arguers"....no point, no possible conclusion, just arguing for argument's sake.

Have fun...I'm done. Anyone with REAL OTA questions, please post in a new thread, I can't bear reading this one any longer.:rolleyes:

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Posted 20 July 2007 - 07:52 AM

This thread should just die a quite death. To the OP: we've tried repeatedly to explain to you.
Software/firmware is not going to change the limitations of the chips used if the HR-20.
Time to move on.
Please let this fade into oblivion. :)
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Posted 22 July 2007 - 12:14 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but the H21 is DIRECTV's first HD receiver that does not support OTA. Therefore, I believe inquiring into DIRECTV's future plans concerning support of OTA is a legitimate question. Such a direction may indicate that OTA support is a not a priority for them. If that is the case then improving the OTA reception on the HR20 may not be a priority as well.

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Posted 22 July 2007 - 01:50 PM

Correct me if I am wrong but the H21 is DIRECTV's first HD receiver that does not support OTA. Therefore, I believe inquiring into DIRECTV's future plans concerning support of OTA is a legitimate question. Such a direction may indicate that OTA support is a not a priority for them. If that is the case then improving the OTA reception on the HR20 may not be a priority as well.


If they plan to offer every digital channel/subchannel in every market, the H21 makes sense to me; otherwise not. Perhaps the addition of OTA was based on the large number of "HD-ready" sets in the past and now that most sets have tuners they feel it isn't necessary. While true, having the tuner in my HR20, along with an integrated guide is a big plus.

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 08:47 PM

The new CE for the HR20-700 has announced improved software for the OTA tuners. Lets keep our fingers crossed.

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 12:19 PM

I believe that the new CE did improve the OTA tuners based upon my initial observations. Does anyone else have an opinion regarding this?

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 06:35 PM

I believe that the new CE did improve the OTA tuners based upon my initial observations. Does anyone else have an opinion regarding this?


I can say that the CE I downloaded last nite improved the OTA tuners. My signal
levels have increase by 10. Now 2 stations that have been marginal with the
HR20 have been solid reception.

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Posted 05 August 2007 - 08:56 PM

I believe that the new CE did improve the OTA tuners based upon my initial observations. Does anyone else have an opinion regarding this?


mine went the other way, i lost one channel. the signals has dropped around 10 to 20% especialy on turner 1 is on the higher side of the greater %.
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Posted 07 August 2007 - 09:21 AM

mine went the other way, i lost one channel. the signals has dropped around 10 to 20% especialy on turner 1 is on the higher side of the greater %.


Thanks for the reply. It looks like different members have experienced different results. Does anyone know what tweaks DIRECTV made regarding the OTA tuners in the last CE?

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 09:26 AM

Thanks for the reply. It looks like different members have experienced different results. Does anyone know what tweaks DIRECTV made regarding the OTA tuners in the last CE?

If it isn't listed in the release notes, then no.
I do hope you get the answer(s) you're looking for, but as you can see, this happens with every software release.
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