Jump to content


Welcome to DBSTalk


Sign In 

Create Account
Welcome to DBSTalk. Our community covers all aspects of video delivery solutions including: Direct Broadcast Satellite (DBS), Cable Television, and Internet Protocol Television (IPTV). We also have forums to discuss popular television programs, home theater equipment, and internet streaming service providers. Members of our community include experts who can help you solve technical problems, industry professionals, company representatives, and novices who are here to learn.

Like most online communities you must register to view or post in our community. Sign-up is a free and simple process that requires minimal information. Be a part of our community by signing in or creating an account. The Digital Bit Stream starts here!
  • Reply to existing topics or start a discussion of your own
  • Subscribe to topics and forums and get email updates
  • Send private personal messages (PM) to other forum members
  • Customize your profile page and make new friends
 
Guest Message by DevFuse

Photo
- - - - -

Sky Angel to transistion IPTV over the next year


  • Please log in to reply
118 replies to this topic

#51 OFFLINE   Ohioankev

Ohioankev

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 214 posts
Joined: Jan 19, 2006

Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:31 PM

Cindy, if you do go FTA, there is a channel up there called JCTV. It's put out by the Trinity Broadcasting Network and is a music and action sports network. I love it! Would probably be a good fit into your music venue.


I never had Sky Angel, I looked into and just to get set up at 61.5 wasn't worth it to me. However, I agree with what you are saying, they shouldn't of started the secular channel offerings especially after sueing DISH for offering Christian based channels in the 260 range. Also they should of never swindled thier "Lifelong Subscribers". However I just noticed something. I have an ITVN reciever, which ITVN has just been purchased by a new IPTV company in Canada called BroadShift and guess what BroadShift offers on IPTV, that's right Sky Angel.
http://www.broadshift.com/ They offer over 25 TV/Radio stations for $25 CAD/month.


Since BroadShift bought ITVN and that does indeed go through I see this as a launching point for Sky Angel IPTV in the US.

...Ads Help To Support This Site...

#52 OFFLINE   krazy k

krazy k

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 206 posts
Joined: Apr 26, 2003

Posted 24 August 2007 - 09:21 AM

I just think its point less to go ahead and pay a 25 $ fee per month for channels that you can get for free,,,,,,
thats just a Money grab................
something christian ministries are so Good At ,,,,
you can get a Coolsat 7000 FTA Receiver,
buy an external sea gate HDD
total cost is 300.00
plus the cost of a dish and motor
may be 450.00 when your done....
and thats it...
you can move to any sateliite and receive free channels from 30 different satillites.....
no fee per month and you can still have a dvr feature....

#53 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 24 August 2007 - 01:27 PM

Glorystar satellite is even cheaper $199 for the whole system , dish included, preprogrammed to receive all christian FTA stations. You can add other stations if you want as well. Includes over 40 stations too

#54 OFFLINE   FTA Michael

FTA Michael

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 3,474 posts
Joined: Jul 21, 2002

Posted 24 August 2007 - 03:55 PM

Glorystar's system doesn't include the DVR setup that krazy was talking about. But if you've already got a standalone TiVo (or even a VCR), it'll work fine with pretty much any FTA system.
Yes, FTABlog is active again. Why do you ask?

#55 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 24 August 2007 - 08:46 PM

I don't know much about DVR, we still use a VCR :) Either way a FTA system will be cheaper than buying a sky angel IPTV system AND then paying a monthly fee to sky angel besides! Especially for those who are now lifetime member, why start paying a monthly fee to get the same skyangel channels? glorystar seems to be as good or better! I think Smile of a child beats KTv any day. You can also watch it online :)

#56 OFFLINE   James Long

James Long

    Ready for Uplink!

  • Super Moderators
  • 40,799 posts
Joined: Apr 17, 2003

Posted 28 September 2007 - 05:25 PM

It looks like the end is nearer.

The FCC approved the transfer of SkyAngel's transponders to E*.
No word on when SkyAngel must vacate the space.
Welcome to DBS Talk - Let's talk about DBS! (The Digital Bit Stream)
DISH Network vs DirecTV: HD Channel List - DISH Network HD Capacity, HD Conversion and more.
DISH Network complete channel lists and lists by satellite location are in The Uplink Activity Center.
Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself. Content is not controlled by DISH Network, DirecTV or any other company.

#57 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 28 September 2007 - 11:21 PM

appears to be WITHIN 60 days of date of letter, which was 9/27/07

FCC order here:
http://fjallfoss.fcc...ment_key=595860

#58 OFFLINE   James Long

James Long

    Ready for Uplink!

  • Super Moderators
  • 40,799 posts
Joined: Apr 17, 2003

Posted 28 September 2007 - 11:54 PM

That would be a good estimate for when E* would take possession, but not for when SkyAngel will no longer be able to have their channels on the satellite.

E* has been uplinking the services since day one. They can continue those uplinks even if they own the transponders. Since SkyAngel has yet to begin the transition (all talk and no US IPTV subscribers) they will likely need a couple of months or more to get the IPTV boxes in place.

It's time for them to get a move on!
Welcome to DBS Talk - Let's talk about DBS! (The Digital Bit Stream)
DISH Network vs DirecTV: HD Channel List - DISH Network HD Capacity, HD Conversion and more.
DISH Network complete channel lists and lists by satellite location are in The Uplink Activity Center.
Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself. Content is not controlled by DISH Network, DirecTV or any other company.

#59 OFFLINE   krazy k

krazy k

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 206 posts
Joined: Apr 26, 2003

Posted 29 September 2007 - 08:16 AM

Glorystar's system doesn't include the DVR setup that krazy was talking about. But if you've already got a standalone TiVo (or even a VCR), it'll work fine with pretty much any FTA system.


You dont have to buy the fta from glory star to get the same channels,
all glory star is offering is a two lnb holder to get two ku sats on one dish.,
but the coolsat 7000, is a pvr external option on the fta ,
so you can get dvr options,
krazz

#60 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 29 September 2007 - 01:43 PM

Its either going to be the dish family package or glorystar for us. glorystar would be cheaper in the long run but as we already have the dish equipment, short term dish would be cheaper. It would actually still save $ to switch to dish family and buy the glorystar equipment. that would give us double the channels and still less expensive then buying all new equipment for sky angel and paying them a monthly fee besides. $200 would get us the glory star equipment and $19.99 a month would get glorystar. I want to wait nd see what if anything dish might offer to skyangel customers.

#61 OFFLINE   krazy k

krazy k

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 206 posts
Joined: Apr 26, 2003

Posted 30 September 2007 - 08:03 AM

with sky angel off i think dish will offer more religous channels

#62 OFFLINE   James Long

James Long

    Ready for Uplink!

  • Super Moderators
  • 40,799 posts
Joined: Apr 17, 2003

Posted 30 September 2007 - 09:23 AM

I hope they will. While Sky Angel's goal of providing a Christian DBS platform was good, it was not very evangelical. It was like asking a non-Christian to walk into Wal-Mart or a Christian bookstore and buy a bible or other evangelical material. People don't do that unless someone else has already led them into the store (or sent them there). The better method is to just GIVE the non-Christian a bible or evangelical material (not sell it to them).

The channels on a secular system like DirecTV or the current Christian channels on Dish Network are free. When people are sitting around their homes tired of what is on the other 250-300 channels they get just looking for something else on E* to watch there is a range of channels where 24/7 there are offers they cannot refuse. Unfortunately those are shopping channels.

If the number of Christian channels can be increased ... especially expanded so more variations (such as kids and music channels) are placed on the air ... there is a better chance of being evangelical and actually fulfilling the Great Commission. There are a couple of channels mixed in with all the other stuff on E* ... they stand there like the street preacher, beaconing for someone to listen.

What SkyAngel is now (other than the one free channel on E*) and what SkyAngel IPTV will be is not evangelical ... it is just preaching to the choir. A great choice for those who already have made a decision and others in their household but certainly not a commission filling service. SkyAngel sits in a pew in a church waiting for someone to come in (with their first response being to require an offering before giving any encouragement).

Add to that the non-compete agreement E* had with Sky Angel (and Sky Angel actually enforced through the court system) where E* was strictly prohibited from adding new religious channels. Not only was Sky Angel set up not to be evangelical but they contracted with E* to prevent new channels from being evangelical over the E* system. In essence, they blocked the gospel.

So yes, I really hope that post SkyAngel E* steps in and places many religious channels on their system. Even though the screams from people who would rather have HD or other channels will be loud, there is a "market" for Christian TV. Viewers want it ... even if they don't know they want it.

#63 OFFLINE   FTA Michael

FTA Michael

    Hall Of Fame

  • Registered
  • 3,474 posts
Joined: Jul 21, 2002

Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:44 PM

Ditto, JL. I've always said that religious channels would be well-served with a bit of attractive secular programming (sports? family-friendly movies?) peppered with advertisements for the channels' other programming or even the channels' brand of religion. But I suspect that there's more money to be made (and expenses to keep low) by preaching to a regular following and soliciting their financial support.
Yes, FTABlog is active again. Why do you ask?

#64 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 30 September 2007 - 07:51 PM

I agree that non Christians are not going to pay to receive service. There are shut ins and new Christians who particularly benefit from Christian TV. However many Christians, myself included do not want to watch the secular commercials and scanty dressing that goes along with many of the secula and sports channels

#65 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 26 October 2007 - 05:40 PM

SkyAngel CSR referred to the following link, which has much new content about the move to IPTV.

http://www.skyangel....ference=IPTVFAQ
***************

#66 OFFLINE   James Long

James Long

    Ready for Uplink!

  • Super Moderators
  • 40,799 posts
Joined: Apr 17, 2003

Posted 26 October 2007 - 10:01 PM

Unfortunately nothing new ... that page is a link off of their main IPTV "sign up" page and has been there for a while.
Welcome to DBS Talk - Let's talk about DBS! (The Digital Bit Stream)
DISH Network vs DirecTV: HD Channel List - DISH Network HD Capacity, HD Conversion and more.
DISH Network complete channel lists and lists by satellite location are in The Uplink Activity Center.
Unless otherwise noted, I speak for myself. Content is not controlled by DISH Network, DirecTV or any other company.

#67 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 27 October 2007 - 12:53 AM

the page that is there now is NOT what was there this am. they took it down and put up old info :( Not that the new one was that great but still odd......................

#68 OFFLINE   Jashobeam

Jashobeam

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 79 posts
Joined: Jul 10, 2005

Posted 02 November 2007 - 10:55 AM

There is a rumor on another board that there will be package choices and possibly a free receiver with an 18 month commitment. If anyone can find a link for this from SA please post it.

#69 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 02 November 2007 - 01:42 PM

Free receiver or not I wouldn't long term commit to anything sky angel is involved with, especially if you have to prepay.

#70 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 05 November 2007 - 12:23 AM

this makes even less sense, take right from skyangel website:

Disclaimer: HughesNet is currently not compatible with Sky Angel's IPTV service.

#71 OFFLINE   Jashobeam

Jashobeam

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 79 posts
Joined: Jul 10, 2005

Posted 05 November 2007 - 07:23 AM

Now that does not make sense. Why would SA be advertising something that when the SA customer gets it then finds out that they cannot do IPTV with it. Somebody needs to get their ducks in a row over at SA!

#72 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 05 November 2007 - 11:55 AM

Beats me but that is what is on the website. worst prt is that hughes is a 24 month sub so if people already ordered in order to get skyangel they are not going to be happy

Here is the link so you can see it yourself

http://www.skyangel....ce=HughesNet&~=

#73 OFFLINE   Jashobeam

Jashobeam

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 79 posts
Joined: Jul 10, 2005

Posted 05 November 2007 - 03:45 PM

I believed you, I was just saying SA does not make sense teaming up with a company that would be a competitor, lol.

#74 OFFLINE   Jashobeam

Jashobeam

    AllStar

  • Registered
  • 79 posts
Joined: Jul 10, 2005

Posted 09 November 2007 - 04:55 PM

I just got an email from SA:

Watch Your Mail! An Offer for Your New Sky Angel IPTV Is Coming Soon!

Better TV for a Better You — Sky Angel IPTV!
More Channels. More Choices. More Control.

Sky Angel IPTV reinforces the values you cherish by bringing you more of the Christian and family-friendly networks that inspire you — up from over 30 to over 65 faith and family channels! We anticipate offering our new IPTV service in early January 2008.

Check out what channels have already committed to be a part of our new IPTV lineup —
more channels than ever before:

.Faith Package — TV Channels

Almavision
Angel One
Angel Two
Catholic TV
The Church Channel
Cornerstone TeleVision Network
Credo TV
EWTN Spanish TV
EWTN U.S. TV
Faith TV
God TV Channel
Golden Eagle Broadcasting
Gospel Music Channel
Gospel Music Television Network
Guardian Television Network JCTV
KTV - Kids & Teens TeleVision
La Familia Network
The Miracle Channel
SafeTV Channel
Smile of a Child TV
Spirit Television Network
TBN Enlace USA
Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN)
Total Christian Television (TCT)
Total Living Network (TLN)
TVU Music Television
World Harvest Television
The Worship Network
more to come...

.Faith Package — Radio Channels


All Worship
America’s Talk Satellite Network
Bott Radio Network
CSN International
EWTN Global Catholic Radio
EWTN Radio Cat�lica Mundial
God Listens/KSBJ
His Kids Radio
KTLW Radio Network
Moody Broadcasting Network
Oasis Radio Network
Radio Nueva Vida Network
Radio U
Sacred Favorites
Voice of Jerusalem
Way-FM
Z-73
more to come...


Family Package — TV Channels


Animal Planet
Blue Highways TV
Discovery Channel
Discovery Home
Discovery Kids
Fox Business Network
Fox News Channel
Hallmark Channel Hallmark Movie Channel
Military Channel
NASA TV
Pentagon Channel
QVC
The Sportsman Channel
Visual Arts Network
The Weather Channel


Stay Tuned!
More Information Coming Soon! . . .

Special offers subject to change.



#75 OFFLINE   quiverof8

quiverof8

    Legend

  • Registered
  • 137 posts
Joined: Apr 05, 2007

Posted 09 November 2007 - 05:15 PM

Notice Liberty still isn't on the list?! I also don't see 3abn. As for the rest most are on DISH family or glorystar




Protected By... spam firewall...And...