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#51 OFFLINE   jpl

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:00 AM

In case you missed, here's one site's best guess at what D*'s 100 HD channels will be. Note that two of them are "TBD", and the list includes no PPV or VOD channels, AFAIK. It does include 9 NFL "Sunday Ticket" channels, however. /s

http://hdtvmagazine....ctv_-_the_m.php


Thanks for the reference. I never saw that before. If you exclude the RSNs and the NFL ST channels, I count 37 HD channels this fall. That's pretty much what I said - they're announcing 70+ channels by end of the year. Nearly half are sports subscription channels, many of which won't be full-time channels. While 37 is alot, I think there are going to be a number of customers that are going to feel cheated by this. Just my opinion.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 07:28 AM

Thanks for the reference. I never saw that before. If you exclude the RSNs and the NFL ST channels, I count 37 HD channels this fall. That's pretty much what I said - they're announcing 70+ channels by end of the year. Nearly half are sports subscription channels, many of which won't be full-time channels. While 37 is alot, I think there are going to be a number of customers that are going to feel cheated by this. Just my opinion.


That list come out before HBO announced their new HD which D* has commited to carrying at least 11.

I thing this list is a better indicator of what's coming.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ead.php?t=87235

Counting existing ones but not counting HD locals or RSNs or PPV/sport packages I get to over 50 by fall. Then there is the Tennis channel in December plus more in 2008.

Available Now:

Discovery HD Theater
ESPN
ESPN2
HBO East
HD NET
HD NET Movies
Showtime East
TNT
Universal

HD Pay-Per-View

Depending on service area and equipment:

ABC
CBS
NBC
FOX
CW
MY Network TV

Local Regional Sports Network


Coming in September:

A&E
Animal Planet
Big Ten Network
CineMax East
CineMax West
Discovery Channel (simulcast)
Food Network
HBO West
HGTV
History Channel
MHD (MTV)
NFL Network (Full-Time)
Science Channel
Showtime West
Starz! East
Starz! West
Starz! Edge
Starz! Comedy
Starz Kids & Family
The Movie Channel
The National Geographic Channel
TLC
The Weather Channel
Versus/Golf


Fall 2007:

Bravo
Cartoon
Chiller
CNBC
CNN
FX
HBO2 East
HBO2 West
HBO Family East
HBO Family West
HBO Latino East
HBO Signature East
MoreMax East
Sci-Fi
Sleuth
Speed
TBS
USA

21 Regional Sports Networks:

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Altitude
Comcast SportsNet Chicago
Comcast SportsNet Mid-Atlantic
FSN Arizona
FSN Bay Area
FSN Detroit
FSN Florida
FSN New England
FSN North
FSN Northwest
FSN Ohio
FSN Prime Ticket
FSN Rocky Mountain
FSN South
FSN Southwest
FSN West
New England Sports Network
SportsNet New York
SportsSouth
Sun Sports
YES

December 2007:

The Tennis Channel

Spring 2008

Disney Channel
Toon Disney
ABC Family
ESPN News
MGM


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Posted 26 June 2007 - 08:27 AM

That list come out before HBO announced their new HD which D* has commited to carrying at least 11.

I thing this list is a better indicator of what's coming.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ead.php?t=87235

Counting existing ones but not counting HD locals or RSNs or PPV/sport packages I get to over 50 by fall. Then there is the Tennis channel in December plus more in 2008.


Yeah, you're right. I also realized that I only included new channels coming this fall. I didn't add in the ones that DirecTV currently carries. Guess we'll have to wait and see what they roll out.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:09 AM

:lol: As I stated I had intended the whole thread more or less as humor :) I guess HD IS really serious business !rolling
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Dolly, when you consider the money that people are putting out to get it...yes it is pretty serious.

A decent HD big screen $1500
HD DVR20 $ 299
Two Years of D (75/mo) $1800

Some will spend less, many will spend more.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 10:58 AM

[...]
A decent HD big screen $1500
HD DVR20 $ 299
Two Years of D (75/mo) $1800
[...]

Watching a great show in crystal clear 16:9... priceless! :) /s

(This post is for Dolly. :lol:)
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 12:16 PM

Dolly, when you consider the money that people are putting out to get it...yes it is pretty serious.

A decent HD big screen $1500
HD DVR20 $ 299
Two Years of D (75/mo) $1800

Some will spend less, many will spend more.


And then add in non satellite/cable purchases to enhance your HD viewing like A/V Receivers, HD Upconvert DVD Players and maybe even a HD DVD or BD Player and your talking a lot of cash.
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Posted 26 June 2007 - 12:33 PM

I thing this list is a better indicator of what's coming.

http://www.dbstalk.c...ead.php?t=87235

Print out this list and put a check mark beside each channel that is available today from any provider. I think you'll find that the hit rate is well under 25%.

These lists are assembled primarily from unilateral announcements from DIRECTV. I can't help but think that the programmers may have their own version of delivery dates.



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Posted 26 June 2007 - 01:17 PM

Print out this list and put a check mark beside each channel that is available today from any provider. I think you'll find that the hit rate is well under 25%.

These lists are assembled primarily from unilateral announcements from DIRECTV. I can't help but think that the programmers may have their own version of delivery dates.



Go Beavs!


I agree with you. I'm not totally familiar with the press release - weren't these agreements in principle? Meaning that they're not set in stone yet? Sort of like a pre-engagement - they agreed to have an agreement at some point. Guess we'll have to wait and see. And for the record, I really hope they do deliver. I want DirecTV to have as much HD as they can handle - that will increase the likelihood that I'll also get that HD through fios.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 03:50 PM

Print out this list and put a check mark beside each channel that is available today from any provider. I think you'll find that the hit rate is well under 25%.

These lists are assembled primarily from unilateral announcements from DIRECTV. I can't help but think that the programmers may have their own version of delivery dates.



Go Beavs!


I know you're a D* hater, but I wouldn't use the term "primarily from unilateral announcements from DIRECTV". I've seen other sources for most of those stations and almost all of them mention DirecTV.

Also, to answer the next post, if D* was going to announce agreements in principle and not really have the agreements set, it would be taking a big risk. You have to believe that those agreements are pretty firm. Otherwise, the other companies would have some serious negotiating rights against D*.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:22 PM

Thanks for the reference. I never saw that before. If you exclude the RSNs and the NFL ST channels, I count 37 HD channels this fall. That's pretty much what I said - they're announcing 70+ channels by end of the year. Nearly half are sports subscription channels, many of which won't be full-time channels. While 37 is alot, I think there are going to be a number of customers that are going to feel cheated by this. Just my opinion.

Why would you exclude RSNs and NFS ST channels when counting? Discussion here has been that RSN's may be going national later this year, so everyone paying for sports pack should be able to get them. Also, anyone paying for NFL ST will also get those channels. Would you exclude the HBO/Sho channels from the list for the same reasons you exclude RSNs and NFL ST? The fact that some people won't subscribe is no reason not to cound the channels DirecTV makes available.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 05:48 PM

Print out this list and put a check mark beside each channel that is available today from any provider. I think you'll find that the hit rate is well under 25%.

These lists are assembled primarily from unilateral announcements from DIRECTV. I can't help but think that the programmers may have their own version of delivery dates.



Go Beavs!


Well add TBS HD to the list of "announced with a delivery date" of September 1st. Here's the actual press release today from Time Warner.

http://www.timewarne...1637248,00.html

And by the way Harsh, this list wasn't assembled "primarily from unilateral announcements from DirecTV." They are mostly from Pressers and info from the actual providers.

Patience Harsh, all this stuff is coming.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 06:00 PM

These lists are assembled primarily from unilateral announcements from DIRECTV.


Here's a few to debunk that....

Tennis Channel:

http://www.thetennis...ail.aspx?id=129

History channel HD + A&E HD:

http://www.multichan.../CA6439832.html

4 new Discovery HD Channels & 5 Starz Channels:

http://www.multichan.../CA6445890.html

11 HBO HD channels:

http://hdtvmagazine....nnels_in_hd.php

You want some more??? I got more....

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 06:45 PM

Why would you exclude RSNs and NFS ST channels when counting? Discussion here has been that RSN's may be going national later this year, so everyone paying for sports pack should be able to get them. Also, anyone paying for NFL ST will also get those channels. Would you exclude the HBO/Sho channels from the list for the same reasons you exclude RSNs and NFL ST? The fact that some people won't subscribe is no reason not to cound the channels DirecTV makes available.


Sorry, but that goes to the discussion on the other thread (or was it this thread... I forget). I simply do not count 3 hours of programming a week, for part of the year, as a channel. And when the RSNs go national, then I would consider them.

As for HBO/Showtime - those I just forgot about - you're right on that front, I neglected to include those.

Look, DirecTV will have alot of HD in the near future - I just find their numbers... curious. No, I can't count NFL ST channels. To me a channel is one that broadcasts at least 18 hours a day, every day.

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Posted 26 June 2007 - 09:53 PM

Dolly, when you consider the money that people are putting out to get it...yes it is pretty serious.

A decent HD big screen $1500
HD DVR20 $ 299
Two Years of D (75/mo) $1800

Some will spend less, many will spend more.

Hey you don't think D isn't about to put me in the poor house :money: :D And on top of it all after saying I wouldn't I got the ticket for the NFL :eek2: I'm sorry, but I just can't get into channel counting no matter how much money I have spent :rolleyes:

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:08 AM

And when the RSNs go national, then I would consider them.

D* has already stated that when the new satellite goes live, the HD RSNs will be moved from the spot beams they are on now to CONUS transponders and therefore will be national. That will be at the same time the other national channels get lit up.
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Posted 27 June 2007 - 05:51 PM

Gee I don't mind people from other areas coming into D's Forum. It's not my Forum. I don't have a right or an interest in keeping anyone out. I just have no interest in going anywhere else myself. But I can't believe this thread of mine which I have repeatedly stated was meant to be a light hearted thread has turned into such a firestorm :raspberry I feel like I created a monster when that wasn't what I had in mind at all :barf:

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 06:21 PM

I feel like I created a monster when that wasn't what I had in mind at all

You didn't create a monster, you sparked a lively discussion.

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Posted 27 June 2007 - 08:10 PM

You didn't create a monster, you sparked a lively discussion.


He's right. If you didn't post it someone else would have. This discussion would have come one way or the other. So don't feel bad.

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 12:59 PM

He's right. If you didn't post it someone else would have. This discussion would have come one way or the other. So don't feel bad.

Thanks :) But I wish someone else would have posted it :rolleyes:

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Posted 28 June 2007 - 10:58 PM

4 new Discovery HD Channels & 5 Starz Channels:

http://www.multichan.../CA6445890.html

11 HBO HD channels:

http://hdtvmagazine....nnels_in_hd.php

As the above two articles were announcements by Derek Chang, VP, Content Strategy and Development, DIRECTV, Inc., they are examples of the unilateral DIRECTV announcements that I referred to. Out of the 23 channels that you offered, I'll grant you three until you produce a statement from the programmer.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 05:03 AM

Try this one harsh.

http://news.moneycen...0604&ID=6990042

Starz Entertainment Executive VP, Affiliate Sales and Marketing, Ed Huguez said, "Lack of programming has for years hampered the growth of high definition television. DIRECTV's leadership role and recently announced breakthrough offering -- including the new HD channels from Starz -- is a landmark development that will open the HD era. Movie lovers are the perfect target audience for HD. Starz looks forward to working with DIRECTV to provide these consumers the best movie-viewing experience possible. With Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound transmitted on all five HD channels, this will be the ultimate home theater offering in the marketplace today."


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Posted 29 June 2007 - 05:35 AM

Well add TBS HD to the list of "announced with a delivery date" of September 1st. Here's the actual press release today from Time Warner.http://www.timewarne...1637248,00.html

The press release says they are going to show EVERYTHING in 16:9. I'm hopeful they plan to use a more "intelligent" side-stretch or anamorphic stretch for TBS than they are currently using for TNTHD. /s

TBS in HD will be broadcast in 1080i 24 hours a day and use Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound across all TBS in HD programming. In addition, TBS in HD will present all of its programming, including promotional content and commercials, in 16:9 wide-screen, giving viewers a consistent viewing experience.

TBS, a division of Turner Broadcasting System, Inc., is television's "very funny" network. It serves as home to such hot contemporary comedies as Sex and the City, Everybody Loves Raymond, Family Guy, King of Queens, Seinfeld and Friends; [...]

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 09:59 AM

As the above two articles were announcements by Derek Chang, VP, Content Strategy and Development, DIRECTV, Inc., they are examples of the unilateral DIRECTV announcements that I referred to. Out of the 23 channels that you offered, I'll grant you three until you produce a statement from the programmer.


http://www.multichan...istory starz hd

“The History Channel HD will give our History fanatics an unparalleled view of history with stunning clarity and rich perspective that they will find nowhere else on the television landscape,” said David Zagin, executive vice president of distribution at History parent A&E Television Networks, in a prepared statement. “We are equally delighted that DirecTV, one of the nation’s largest programming distributors, will be there with us from the beginning of this exciting launch. We look forward to many more partnerships with distributors to bring The History Channel HD to their consumers.”

History HD will join sister network A&E HD -- which launched last year -- on DirecTV come September.

http://hd.broadcastn...e.jsp?id=147432

"Starz Entertainment announced today that its new High Definition (HD) premium movie channels will be launched on DIRECTV. Starz Comedy HD, Starz Edge HD and Starz Kids & Family HD represent the multichannel industry's first and only non-flagship premium HD channels.

Expected to debut in September 2007, the three new HD channels will be East Coast feeds of the Starz Comedy, Starz Edge, and Starz Kids & Family networks. They will complement the existing Starz HD channel, which will be available on DIRECTV in both the East and West Coast feeds. All five Starz HD offerings will be presented in Dolby® Digital 5.1 surround sound.

The Starz HD movie channels will be offered at no extra cost to DIRECTV Starz® Super Pack subscribers."

Starz Entertainment Executive VP, Affiliate Sales and Marketing, Ed Huguez said, "Lack of programming has for years hampered the growth of high definition television. DIRECTV's leadership role and recently announced breakthrough offering -- including the new HD channels from Starz -- is a landmark development that will open the HD era. Movie lovers are the perfect target audience for HD. Starz looks forward to working with DIRECTV to provide these consumers the best movie-viewing experience possible. With Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound transmitted on all five HD channels, this will be the ultimate home theater offering in the marketplace today."

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 10:27 AM

We're up to eight non-unilateral channel announcements by my count.

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Posted 29 June 2007 - 11:37 AM

We're up to eight non-unilateral channel announcements by my count.


Instead of being bated into cutting and pasting links for an hour I'll let you sit there with your Dish equipment and watch our channels light up in September.

If you're not satisfied then go google the HD channels such as CNN and Weather etc. in regards to DirecTV.

Have a nice weekend Harsh.

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