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Pick only one DLB, MediaShare or VOD


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Poll: Pick only one DLB, MediaShare or VOD (190 member(s) have cast votes)

Pick only one DLB, MediaShare or VOD

  1. MediaShare (17 votes [8.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.95%

  2. DLB (93 votes [48.95%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 48.95%

  3. VOD (80 votes [42.11%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 42.11%

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#26 OFFLINE   tfederov

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:18 PM

If the HR20 did...;/ did get DLB. Would you use it?


I would with Sunday Ticket and other sports but it's been almost a year (okay, a year in November) but I really don't miss it all that much. My big reason for DLB in the past was to track my fantasy players but I can do that now with ST Superfan.
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#27 OFFLINE   Earl Bonovich

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:18 PM

If the HR20 did...;/ did get DLB. Would you use it?


Honestly? No. I hardly ever used it when I had it on the TiVos... as I simply have stopped watching live TV shows. Nearly everything I watch now on my DVR's is recorded.

And if it is live? I usually end up recording it, simply because I am so used to not having to sit there and watch something live.

I am not a "dual sport watcher"... I don't flip between multiple games.
I love the NFL as much as the next guys, but when my Bears on... it's the Berars on the screen till half-time.

If there are two sporting events on that I MUST watch... I pull out the 2nd TV, or have it going on a gamcast on the PC that is in the living room.

I don't try to watch two news broadcasts at the same time, nor two sitcoms
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#28 OFFLINE   jheda

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:25 PM

Earl, I agree, I dont need it either. As demonstrated by my dedication to the hr20 and its users. I could jump anytime to a cable dvr, as i have cable included in my maintanance, but choose to add D*. I thoroughly enjoy the hr20 and find it superior to my other directivo unit.

But i enjoyed DLB.....and would enjoy it again.

And i agree the poll is slanted as we dont have to just have one (i didnt create this puppy).

Where i respectfully disagree, is a sampling large enough can be extrapolated, ie harris and nielson polls. Where this one faulters is the way its worded. WE (the dbstalk community), though, IMHO are a broad enough base; although somewhat techie driven. Nevertheless the better written polls here can be fairly extrapolated to represent 16 million. Thats what scientific polls do, as you know. But this one aint scientiffically written, true.

And thanks Earl for continuing to give DLB a forum. And if you like our one sticky idea, go for it. I will adhere to its self imposed concept. I know we irritate some...



When this poll opens up to the 16,000,000+ user base...

Is when we will know what a "great #" of subs want...

Regardless... I have been without DLB for almost 2 years (going back to the introduction of the R15)... and have long since gotten to a point, that I just don't need it...

Give me VOD, so I can have a massive library of programming to choose from when there is just nothing recorded, or live that i want to watch.

Either way, it is still a very slanted poll... as you don't have to have "just one"


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#29 OFFLINE   Blitz68

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:33 PM

If the HR20 did...;/ did get DLB. Would you use it?


Nope. There is no need for DLB. Done :lol:
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:37 PM

The HR20 is the first and only DVR I have ever used. I certainly don't miss DLB since I have never used it and the HR20 works exactly the way I expect it to. Why not just record what you want instead of relying on DLB. Heck, I was just happy to get rid of all the VHS tapes.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 03:49 PM

I do not understand what is so hard about hitting the record button.

In the CE last week we got the ability to jump from recording to live and back while both are being buffered. I see no advantage using my 10-250 vs. this new approach on the HR20.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 04:00 PM

VOD.

I can live without DLB. Don't really miss it.

VOD!!!

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 04:08 PM

From the proposed single DLB thread.....

"Even the current workaround is tedious. Recording two programs works but you CAN'T use the PREV channel button to toggle between the two programs. One of them always defaults to LIVE.
What is the purpose of the Single Live Buffer if it doesn't even remember the Pause Point? Do the developers really believe that the ideal scenario is to force the user to Rewind back to the point they left off?
Sure, if you want to toggle back and forth you can go into the Playlist every time and select the other program. Tedious and unnecessary. User unfriendliness like that needs to be fixed
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I do not understand what is so hard about hitting the record button.

In the CE last week we got the ability to jump from recording to live and back while both are being buffered. I see no advantage using my 10-250 vs. this new approach on the HR20.


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Posted 08 July 2007 - 04:14 PM

If the HR20 did...;/ did get DLB. Would you use it?


Never had DLB and don't care for it, probably won't ever use it, so my VOTE is VOD, like mentioned earlier if there is nothing good to watch on TV then we can pick something worth while.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 04:28 PM

I do not understand what is so hard about hitting the record button.

I refuse to use the REC button when watching live because I don't want to first have to look at my playlist to see if there's any danger of one or more programs being deleted. This is my biggest issue with the "DLB simulation using REC on two tuners" ... Using this method means you could face conflicts with upcoming recordings and could force you to run out of space, meaning programs in your playlist will be deleted.

Instead, my work around involves two HR20s and a Harmony universal remote. Today I watched NBC's Wimdledon coverage on one box, and the Yankees game on YES on the other. I paused each DVR and used my Harmony "Activity" buttons to toggle between the two DVRs. The activity took care of switching AV inputs on the TV and home theater, so I just had to wait for the TV to refresh.

I would prefer to have DLB and not have to do this .. but I'll never press REC while this is an option for me.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 04:33 PM

and finally, a yankee game worth watching!

I refuse to use the REC button when watching live because I don't want to first have to look at my playlist to see if there's any danger of one or more programs being deleted. This is my biggest issue with the "DLB simulation using REC on two tuners" ... Using this method means you could face conflicts with upcoming recordings and could force you to run out of space, meaning pgragrams in your playlist will be deleted.

Instead, my work around involves two HR20s and a Harmony universal remote. Today I watched NBC Wimdledon's coverage on one box, and the Yankees game on YES on the other. I paused each DVR and used my Harmony "Activity" buttons to toggle between the two DVRs. The activity took care of switching AV inputs on the TV and home theater, so I just had to wait for the TV to refresh.

I would prefer to have DLB and not have to do this .. but I'll never press REC while this is an option for me.


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Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:29 PM

That Was The Real Yankee Team. I Would Love To Have Dlb For Football

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 05:39 PM

I don't see "none" as an answer. I would rather the problems that remain with the HR20 as a DVR be fixed first....


No DVR related problems left of any consequence (with the exception of MPEG4 issues) to delay other enhancements. IMHO.

I also believe the MPEG4 issues are less about the HR20 and more about the learning curve of a new technology. All in good time. It's not an A or B decision.
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 06:19 PM

Until the HR20 supports wireless encryption, it will never be more than a DVR to me.
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 06:22 PM

Give me VOD. Had Tivo for 2 years....didn't even know that DLB existed.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 06:24 PM

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 06:47 PM

I do not understand what is so hard about hitting the record button.

In the CE last week we got the ability to jump from recording to live and back while both are being buffered. I see no advantage using my 10-250 vs. this new approach on the HR20.



Because it is not as simple as hitting the REC button. If you decide you'd rather watch a different game, gotta confirm to stop recording. If you are up against the meager 100 item limit, you gotta tell it what course of action you'd like it to do (ie cancel something from the 100 item "to-do" list. And as has been repeated many, many, many times, Pause does not stay paused when you switch.

It is a poor workaround.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 06:53 PM

From the proposed single DLB thread.....

"Even the current workaround is tedious. Recording two programs works but you CAN'T use the PREV channel button to toggle between the two programs. One of them always defaults to LIVE.
What is the purpose of the Single Live Buffer if it doesn't even remember the Pause Point? Do the developers really believe that the ideal scenario is to force the user to Rewind back to the point they left off?
Sure, if you want to toggle back and forth you can go into the Playlist every time and select the other program. Tedious and unnecessary. User unfriendliness like that needs to be fixed
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Try it. You do not have to record two, just one. And prev does work.
I rec the show I want, play it and then just punch in the other channel you want, then Prev does togle back and forth.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 06:54 PM

I refuse to use the REC button when watching live because I don't want to first have to look at my playlist to see if there's any danger of one or more programs being deleted. This is my biggest issue with the "DLB simulation using REC on two tuners" ... Using this method means you could face conflicts with upcoming recordings and could force you to run out of space, meaning programs in your playlist will be deleted.

Instead, my work around involves two HR20s and a Harmony universal remote. Today I watched NBC's Wimdledon coverage on one box, and the Yankees game on YES on the other. I paused each DVR and used my Harmony "Activity" buttons to toggle between the two DVRs. The activity took care of switching AV inputs on the TV and home theater, so I just had to wait for the TV to refresh.

I would prefer to have DLB and not have to do this .. but I'll never press REC while this is an option for me.


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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:10 PM

I just did. The recorded show remained @ the proper point; the unrecorded show lost its buffer!!!!


EDIT: ken, give me step by step directions like to a 10yo (no jokes pls) ill gladly test it!!!

Try it. You do not have to record two, just one. And prev does work.
I rec the show I want, play it and then just punch in the other channel you want, then Prev does togle back and forth.


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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:19 PM

Does mediashare in this poll include the ability to watch a show recorded from one HR20 on another?

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:25 PM

I don't want to vote. Because I want all three. But if I were in a desert and all I had was an HR20 (and an air-conditioned tent - and a couch) and I could only have DLB Mediashare or VOD - I would have to say DLB assuming I was going to be watching commercial TV. Because I use DLB to avoid commercials.
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#48 OFFLINE   Ken S

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 07:36 PM

Personally, I'd take MRV over DLB. VoD if done well would be nice although I have concerns about how well D's implementation will work.
Nothing wrong with asking for all three.

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Posted 08 July 2007 - 08:46 PM

DLB. The other two are useless to me. DLB I use.

Like some others have said though, no reason we cannot have them all. Make all of us happy. :D
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Posted 08 July 2007 - 09:55 PM

Until the HR20 supports wireless encryption, it will never be more than a DVR to me.

The HR20 itself doesn't support wireless in the first place. But you can plug in a wireless Ethernet adapter that does support encryption, and it would work just fine.




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