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No tax on credits?


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#1 OFFLINE   dezufnoC

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 04:37 AM

I'm sitting here once again looking at my bill and I noticed that every time a credit is applied for a mistaken lease charge only (not a d* promo credit or anything) the tax is never applied also. Here is an example of my findings from my online look at my bill....

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Date Access Card Description Amount Tax
07/08/2007 xxxxxxxx - Monthly Bill $0.00 $0.00
07/08/2007 xxxxxxxxxxxx Leased Receiver $4.99 $0.30
07/08/2007 xxxxxxxxxxxx HD Access $9.99 $0.00
07/08/2007 xxxxxxxxxxxx PREMIER - Charge $99.99 $0.00
07/08/2007 xxxxxxxxxxxx Leased Receiver $4.99 $0.30
07/08/2007 xxxxxxxxxxxx Primary Leased Receiver $-4.99 $0.00
07/08/2007 xxxxxxxxxxxx Primary Leased Receiver - Charge $4.99 $0.30

Notice that the lease charge always includes tax but the credit does not. Now this is a mere $0.30 charge that D* is collecting from us the consumer but think if just every other customer has an issue like this the money could be significant. Plus I am sure they are not sending that extra $$ to the government so guess who's pocketing that?
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#2 OFFLINE   FHSPSU67

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 05:51 AM

I don't think so.
Yes, in the beginning you're charged tax on the additional lease, but on the next bill you're taxable amount is reduced by $4.99 meaning that in effect you get your 30 cents back. No?
[edit] An example: Let's say you have normal service worth $100 so your normal bill would be $100 + 6% or $6 =$106 per month.
Now with the 4.99 error you're paying $100 + 4.99 +tax of $6.30 for a total of $111.29.
The 2nd month the credit is deducted so you pay $100 - 4.99 =95.01 + 5.70 tax = $100.71
So for the two months you've paid 111.29 + 100.71 = $212.00 - the same as you'd have paid if this never happened!
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Posted 14 July 2007 - 06:04 AM

No. Not paying tax on the following bill does not recover the tax you paid on a reversed charge.
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#4 OFFLINE   Blurayfan

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 07:28 AM

The Primary Leased Receiver is not a mistaken lease fee. DirecTV uses this proceedure because some states require they collect taxes on all leased equipment and yes the tax does go to these states. Your receivers are all leased but since they don't charge a lease fee for the primary receiver they just issue a credit to offset it.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 07:53 AM

As has been said, the tax is required by many states and D* does pay it to the state. you can take off your tin-foil helmet now, there is no conspiracy.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 09:32 AM

The don't always collect the tax on a primary leased receiver--strange (or possibly a bookkeeping mixup).

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 09:55 AM

No. Not paying tax on the following bill does not recover the tax you paid on a reversed charge.

See my example I've added to my original post above.
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#8 OFFLINE   Blurayfan

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 10:13 AM

See my example I've added to my original post above.

That's not the way it's done for Leased equipment both the charge and credit are on the same bill but as shown by the OP the tax is not removed because the home state of the poster requires taxes on leased equipment. I believe your example does work for normal programming service that's under a promotion where a credit is applied ($20 off PREMIER) for states that charge sales tax on the total.

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 03:21 PM

That's not the way it's done for Leased equipment both the charge and credit are on the same bill but as shown by the OP the tax is not removed because the home state of the poster requires taxes on leased equipment. I believe your example does work for normal programming service that's under a promotion where a credit is applied ($20 off PREMIER) for states that charge sales tax on the total.


OK, I've caught on. In my state (PA) I pay 6% sales tax on the total. Thanks for reminding me that I'm living in PA - Land of Taxes!:(
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#10 OFFLINE   dezufnoC

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 03:25 PM

As has been said, the tax is required by many states and D* does pay it to the state. you can take off your tin-foil helmet now, there is no conspiracy.

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 05:01 PM

LOL

There is a conspiracy somewhere....I can feel it! :lol:

If there isn't a conspiracy somewhere, we can always make one up :lol: :D

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 09:22 PM

I heard about one, but it has something to do with Tennis and Russian spys, so I wont go there with you Dolly..

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Posted 15 July 2007 - 09:38 PM

This is off subject but Ive had D* for about 4 years now and right now I have plus hd package. I want to upgrade to the premier package with hd access,can I get the promotional 4 months free when you order NFL sunday ticket?




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