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#141 OFFLINE   Michael D'Angelo

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Posted 31 October 2007 - 06:10 PM

People need to know their facts on these boards before they post bad information and mislead others (however mistaken)! The MS2UT supports 2 TB of data.
http://www.sansdigit...stor/ms2ut.html

Pardon me for saying so... While I greatly appreciate the help of those who know what they are talking about, all of the misinformation posted within these forums made this process WAAAAAAAAY harder than it needed to be.

End of rant.


You are correct and that is what the specs say now. But a month ago when I bought mine they said 1.5TB with no larger than two 750GB hard drives. They have changed the specs so chill out a little.

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#142 OFFLINE   ITSec_Guy

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Posted 03 November 2007 - 03:05 PM

This has to be posted in multiple forums as it has been discussed in a lot of different places!

I can confirm that the RS-M2TS from CoolDrives for $139 works flawlessly with the 0A35155 version of the 1TB Hitachi drive. This is, to my knowledge, the first enclosure with the Sil5744 chipset that we have tried to use.

I used the
http://www.cooldrive...asyfor3sah.html

I recommend using ZipZoomFly for purchasing the drives.

#143 OFFLINE   aleicgrant

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 09:35 AM

Just ordered the RS-M2TS to combine it with 2 WD 1TB drives. Crossing fingers. Should be set to spanning mode correct?

#144 OFFLINE   RMSko

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Posted 04 November 2007 - 12:18 PM

I'm trying to connect a Seagate Pro 750 gig to my HR20-100 externally via SATA. I turned off my HR20 and then unplugged it. I then connected my Seagate to the HR20 and then turned on the Seagate. I then turned on my HR20. It started to boot up, went through the "checking satellite", then went to a fully white screen, but now seems frozen. It's not responsive to any of the buttons and has been that way for about 10 minutes. Anyone have any thoughts/suggestions?

#145 OFFLINE   aleicgrant

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 11:58 AM

I am happy to report I am up and running with 2tb of space and my cooldrive RS-M2TS

Record away I go !!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:25 PM

Hi everyone:

New to this forum been reading a while to try and educate myself on the HR-20 since I plan on getting on before the new HD channels come on. I also plan on buying a seagate FA 750 for the extra storage.

Can someone tell me roughly how many hours of recording space they get with a 750 gb hd?

Thanks


I'm fairly new myself but I might be able to lend some insight to this one. I've got an HR20-100 with a 320 GB internal drive. I just noticed after watching 4 hours of HD programming and then deleting, that my space remaining went from 32% to 40%. Extrapolating, that yields about 50 hours of programming in HD.

Going to 750 GB should yield about 117 hours, all else being equal.

A 1TB external drive should give us about 156 hours.

A pair of 750's configured to 1.5 TB should hold 234 hours.

The 2TB raid array described earlier would be a whopping 312 hours of storage.

I may add some cost figures to this to decide what $/hr. figure yields the most efficient solution.

#147 OFFLINE   Podkayne

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 04:08 PM

750 GB 117 hrs Encl + Drive = $223 so $1.91/hr of storage
1 TB 156 hrs Encl + Drive = $328 so $2.10/hr
1.5 TB 234 hrs Encl + Drives = $529 so $2.26/hr
2 TB 312 hrs Encl + Drives = $739 so $2.37/hr

Going larger than 1TB involves the more expensive RAID enclosure, and the 1TB drives are quite a bit pricier than the 750G's.

I probably will get the Kingwin enclosure and the Hitachi 0A35155 1TB drive . This will more than triple the internal storage capacity for $328. It also allows an easy upgrade path to a 2TB system when the price of the 1TB drives permits.

#148 OFFLINE   aleicgrant

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 10:07 PM

Here is my breakdown

2 1TB drives @ 259.00 each
Raid Enclosure $130

Total $648 or 2.07/hr

not too shabby

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 09:45 AM

HR20-700

Free Agent Pro 750 Gig

Looks like about 150 hrs of MPEG-4 HD

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HR24-200, WD20EVDS 2 TB eSATA/ThermalTake Dock

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#150 OFFLINE   Podkayne

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 01:28 PM

Here is my breakdown

2 1TB drives @ 259.00 each
Raid Enclosure $130

Total $648 or 2.07/hr

not too shabby


How did you configure the enclosure? RAID 0, JBOD, or spanning?

#151 OFFLINE   Podkayne

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 09:12 PM

How did you configure the enclosure? RAID 0, JBOD, or spanning?


Looks like spanning is the correct setting for this setup.

Also, I've read elsewhere in this forum that DTV reserves about 100 GB of disk space in a partition to itself, for recording showcases, and such. That stays fixed, no matter how large the disk. This makes our calculations more interesting:


320 GB (220 recording space) = 50 hrs MPEG4 HD programming
750 GB (650 recording space) = 148 hrs.
1 TB (900 GB recording space) = 204 hrs.
1.5 TB (1.4 TB recording space) = 318 hrs.
2 TB (1.9 TB recording space) = 432 hrs.

Can anyone confirm if these recording capacities seem correct? Someone mentioned their Seagate FAP 750 was yielding close to 150 hrs. recording capacity, so these figures may be pretty close.

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Posted 08 November 2007 - 09:19 PM

Seagate Free Agent Pro 750
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HR24-500 Native Off, 2TB internal Drive
HR22-100 Native Off, 2TB eSata External Drive
(WD20EVDS in an Antec MX-1)
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Posted 09 November 2007 - 06:46 PM

750 GB 117 hrs Encl + Drive = $223 so $1.91/hr of storage
1 TB 156 hrs Encl + Drive = $328 so $2.10/hr
1.5 TB 234 hrs Encl + Drives = $529 so $2.26/hr
2 TB 312 hrs Encl + Drives = $739 so $2.37/hr

Going larger than 1TB involves the more expensive RAID enclosure, and the 1TB drives are quite a bit pricier than the 750G's.

I probably will get the Kingwin enclosure and the Hitachi 0A35155 1TB drive . This will more than triple the internal storage capacity for $328. It also allows an easy upgrade path to a 2TB system when the price of the 1TB drives permits.


Podkayne,

I am with you. I installed the WD 1tb with the Kingwin enclosure for $313 with my HR20-100. It has been performing outstanding for me at first plugin. I am going to wait as well until the prices go down on the 1tb and add a 2tb system/raid enclosure at a later date. A bit too pricey right now and I do not want to put all my eggs in one basket at this point; especially since you can not transfer this HD to another receiver without losing your data, etc.

Tony

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Posted 09 November 2007 - 07:15 PM

I'm using the Cavalry 750GB unit. Has been working perfect for over 3 weeks now and was relatively inexpensive at right around $200. The enclosure has a fan, and it comes with a cable too so it was plug in and go.
Samsung HL-S6188W 1080P 61" DLP
HR20-700 & Cavalry 750GB eSata HD

Samsung LN-S4692D 46" LCD
HR20-700 & Cavalry 750GB eSata HD

Philips 37PFL5322D 37" LCD
H20-100

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 03:32 PM

How did you configure the enclosure? RAID 0, JBOD, or spanning?


Spanning. As I know that is the only way for the HR20 to see the full 2tb.

I gotta tell you I LOVE having this much space. Never have to worry about recording too much :)

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Posted 13 November 2007 - 09:55 PM

Is this a good choice?

"Western Digital Caviar GP WD10EACS 1TB 5400 to 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM "
http://www.newegg.co...-E1R-_-22136151

$269 with promo code for newsletter subscribers.

In the reviews people are saying it is actually fixed at 5400 RPM, and not variable like the description says. I don't know if that is a good or bad thing for DVR use.

Would pair it with the Kingwin enclosure from Newegg if I get it. But I am trying to wait until after the holidays to see how much more the prices will come down.

#157 OFFLINE   Trekker003

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 11:27 AM

Are all Seagate Free Agent Pro 750's the same ? Best Buy has 2 models.

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 11:19 PM

Could one connect an external eSATA drive, say 750GB, in an enclosure, boot the HR-20 to it so that it becomes the system's drive...then pull the drive from the external enclosure and replace the 300GB internal drive with it?

Would the HR20 then work with a new, internal 750GB drive?

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Posted 17 November 2007 - 11:59 PM

YES.

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Posted 18 November 2007 - 08:48 AM

Could one connect an external eSATA drive, say 750GB, in an enclosure, boot the HR-20 to it so that it becomes the system's drive...then pull the drive from the external enclosure and replace the 300GB internal drive with it?

Would the HR20 then work with a new, internal 750GB drive?

Be advised that if you don't own the HR20 outright, opening the case of the HR20 will void your warranty and violate your lease terms.




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