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#581 ONLINE   Steve

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 11:53 AM

I, too, wish I could get a filtered search list based on my current custom list. Getting every channel in creation is a pain.

+1. Even with the CIG fix that D* has rolled-out in the latest CE, you still see channels you DON'T get in SEARCH results (channels you don't get are only removed from AUTORECORD results). That's intentional on their part to show you that a CHANNEL you may want to subscribe to is available, and I personally don't favor that approach.

Like the HR10, they should give you the OPTION to search ALL channels if that's your goal, but also to just search an editable CIG list if that's all you want to see in your SEARCH results.

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#582 OFFLINE   911medic

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 09:57 PM

Here's one that has kept popping up a lot here at my house lately:

When parental controls are enabled, and you attempt to start a recorded show that exceeds the limits, the popup comes up telling you that you need to enter your code to "unlock" the program. While you choose from the three (I think) choices (cancel, unlock, unlock all?), and then punch in the code, your show is playing away in the background. Tonight, my wife was trying to unlock a show in this situation. She's not as adept at using the remote as me, and it took her close to 60 seconds to get the show unlocked. She then had to rewind the show back to the beginning to start watching.

So, would it be possible to implement a solution such that a locked show remains paused in the background until it's unlocked?

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Posted 05 November 2007 - 10:28 PM

Here's one that has kept popping up a lot here at my house lately:

When parental controls are enabled, and you attempt to start a recorded show that exceeds the limits, the popup comes up telling you that you need to enter your code to "unlock" the program. While you choose from the three (I think) choices (cancel, unlock, unlock all?), and then punch in the code, your show is playing away in the background. Tonight, my wife was trying to unlock a show in this situation. She's not as adept at using the remote as me, and it took her close to 60 seconds to get the show unlocked. She then had to rewind the show back to the beginning to start watching.

So, would it be possible to implement a solution such that a locked show remains paused in the background until it's unlocked?

I've never used Parental Controls, but your wife's experience is troubling to me. Does that mean if a child selects a show s/he shouldn't see, they can see or hear part of the blocked show while attempting to guess the unlock code? I hope I'm wrong, but if so, I might consider reporting that as an issue here and in the appropriate "issues" thread for your s/w release. Just my .02. /steve
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 02:58 PM

Maybe it's already in there, but I'll be darned if I can find it. With my TiVO-powered 10-250, I was able to select a category (e.g., movies) from the 14 day list and browse just movies. Now I must browse all programs (i.e., all categories in the "Search" function in order to find a movie I want to record. The Guide filter only allows one to blip through each channel, one at a time. Can a brother get some help here?

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Posted 06 November 2007 - 03:16 PM

Maybe it's already in there, but I'll be darned if I can find it. With my TiVO-powered 10-250, I was able to select a category (e.g., movies) from the 14 day list and browse just movies. Now I must browse all programs (i.e., all categories in the "Search" function in order to find a movie I want to record. The Guide filter only allows one to blip through each channel, one at a time. Can a brother get some help here?

Only way I know to do that is through an unintuitive "workaround" I've been using since I first got my HR20's. If someone has come with an easier way, I'd love to know about it myself. :)

Go to "Menu", "Search for shows", "Keyword" and use a SPACE character as your SEARCH term. You'll then be taken to the "CATEGORY" screen, where you can select "MOVIES", "ALL" (or whichever sub-genre you'd like). That will get you the list of movies you want.

It's really not that onerous, just ugly. :) A "top-level" category search is one of the items we're asking for in the Wish List "SEARCH" request. If you haven't yet taken the survey, please do so here and let D* know you want that feature. TIA. /steve
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 04:39 PM

Well, with 105 votes in on this POLL, it looks like roughly 40% of respondents would like to be able to create more than 2 "favorites" lists, so I'll create an appropriate new Wish List request and post it during tomorrow's update.

Based on what folks have said, in addition to "All" and "CIG", I'm thinking up to 5 CUSTOM lists would be an appropriate number to ask for. Any thoughts "pro" or "con" this number? TIA. /steve
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Posted 06 November 2007 - 04:57 PM

Well, with 105 votes in on this POLL, it looks like roughly 40% of respondents would like to be able to create more than 2 "favorites" lists, so I'll create an appropriate new Wish List request and post it during tomorrow's update.

Based on what folks have said, in addition to "All" and "CIG", I'm thinking up to 5 CUSTOM lists would be an appropriate number to ask for. Any thoughts "pro" or "con" this number? TIA. /steve

Steve- Thanks for making the poll. I missed it, but just added my comments. I would love to have multiple lists of favorites, and 5 custom lists seems like a good number.

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Posted 07 November 2007 - 07:53 AM

Well, with 105 votes in on this POLL, it looks like roughly 40% of respondents would like to be able to create more than 2 "favorites" lists, so I'll create an appropriate new Wish List request and post it during tomorrow's update.

Based on what folks have said, in addition to "All" and "CIG", I'm thinking up to 5 CUSTOM lists would be an appropriate number to ask for. Any thoughts "pro" or "con" this number? TIA. /steve


I see no reason to limit the number of Favorites to any arbitrary value. Let users create as many as they desire. After all, there's a multi-gigabyte hard drive inside the box.
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 08:57 AM

Two new requests were added to the Wish List this week:
  • "Partial recordings should be flagged on the PLAYLIST. The show's PROGRESS BAR should reflect the partial time as well." (based on this POLL)

  • "Increase the number of Custom channel lists to 5 or more."
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Posted 07 November 2007 - 02:20 PM

It recently came to my attention that:

"Cache the OTA information so that it can be quickly discovered after a reset"

is a completed item that was mistakenly still on the "active" list. Happily, this brings the number of completed items to 33. /steve
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Posted 10 November 2007 - 09:15 PM

After reading the current wish list I realized that one of the items that was important to me has been back burnered due to lack of interest. I realize that having the cruise controls work for the XM channels isn't important for the majority but I am saddened to hear the idea has apparently been dropped altogether.

I would really enjoy being able to record the XM channels and pause, rewind or fast forward. The R-15 let you record the XM channels I don't understand why the HR 20-700 can't as well. If this issue is posted in the wrong thread I apologize.

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Posted 10 November 2007 - 11:34 PM

After reading the current wish list I realized that one of the items that was important to me has been back burnered due to lack of interest. I realize that having the cruise controls work for the XM channels isn't important for the majority but I am saddened to hear the idea has apparently been dropped altogether.

I would really enjoy being able to record the XM channels and pause, rewind or fast forward. The R-15 let you record the XM channels I don't understand why the HR 20-700 can't as well. If this issue is posted in the wrong thread I apologize.

Just because an item has been back-burnered due to lack of voter support doesn't necessarily mean it won't be implemented by D* at some point in the future. The fact that it was on the first page of the Wish List for so long pretty much ensures that D* is aware of the request.

The Wish List is only our attempt to give D* some guidance on what new features we'd like and the order in which we'd like to see implemented. What requests are actually implemented by D* is entirely up to them, and we have no way of knowing what D*'s internal "to-do" list actually looks like. :) /steve
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Posted 10 November 2007 - 11:52 PM

Only way I know to do that is through an unintuitive "workaround" I've been using since I first got my HR20's. If someone has come with an easier way, I'd love to know about it myself. :)

Go to "Menu", "Search for shows", "Keyword" and use a SPACE character as your SEARCH term. You'll then be taken to the "CATEGORY" screen, where you can select "MOVIES", "ALL" (or whichever sub-genre you'd like). That will get you the list of movies you want.

It's really not that onerous, just ugly. :) A "top-level" category search is one of the items we're asking for in the Wish List "SEARCH" request. If you haven't yet taken the survey, please do so here and let D* know you want that feature. TIA. /steve


My wife has really wanted to be able to search for all movies (or all comedy movies) by a specific year, such as 2007. So a search with the keyword 2007 and movie/comedy would show all the comedy movies that have a 2007 year. Very helpful for just browsing the new releases. She searches this way on our Tivo, and this is the feature that keeps her from liking the HR20. I guess that making the year a searchable keyword is the main change to be made.

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 12:00 AM

Just because an item has been back-burnered due to lack of voter support doesn't necessarily mean it won't be implemented by D* at some point in the future. The fact that it was on the first page of the Wish List for so long pretty much ensures that D* is aware of the request.

The Wish List is only our attempt to give D* some guidance on what new features we'd like and the order in which we'd like to see implemented. What requests are actually implemented by D* is entirely up to them, and we have no way of knowing what D*'s internal "to-do" list actually looks like. :) /steve

I appreciate that you took the time to answer my post and thanks for all the hard work constructing the wish list. :)

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 07:06 AM

My wife has really wanted to be able to search for all movies (or all comedy movies) by a specific year, such as 2007. So a search with the keyword 2007 and movie/comedy would show all the comedy movies that have a 2007 year. Very helpful for just browsing the new releases. She searches this way on our Tivo, and this is the feature that keeps her from liking the HR20. I guess that making the year a searchable keyword is the main change to be made.

Based on your request, I've modified the description of a KEYWORD in our comprehensive SEARCH With List Proposal:

"KEYWORD (Includes ANY WORDS in the program description. Actors, show types, station call letters, year, "LB", "HD", etc.)"

If you haven't already voted, please let D* know how you feel about this or any of the other items on the list. TIA. /steve
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Posted 11 November 2007 - 11:04 AM

I didn't see this specific request, but maybe I mis-understood something. At any rate, when a show runs over into the following hour, instead of canceling a show that was supposed to be recorded in the following hour, start to record it when the prior show ends. The problem, of course, is that I might want to record two shows that run from 10-11, but a prior recording runs from 9-10+. The lower priority 10 show will not be recorded.

I did see something about schedules being changed, and it would apply here as well. However, the show is usually scheduled to run over. I think the networks are doing this to mess with DVRs. My current response is to delist the culprit, but there are a couple of shows I would like to see. I just don't want them to prevent me from seeing shows in the next hour.

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 11:40 AM

I didn't see this specific request, but maybe I mis-understood something. At any rate, when a show runs over into the following hour, instead of canceling a show that was supposed to be recorded in the following hour, start to record it when the prior show ends. The problem, of course, is that I might want to record two shows that run from 10-11, but a prior recording runs from 9-10+. The lower priority 10 show will not be recorded.

I did see something about schedules being changed, and it would apply here as well. However, the show is usually scheduled to run over. I think the networks are doing this to mess with DVRs. My current response is to delist the culprit, but there are a couple of shows I would like to see. I just don't want them to prevent me from seeing shows in the next hour.

Many of these problems are caused by last minute scheduling changes by the network. Check out this request already on the Wish List:

When an unexpected change to a scheduled recording's end time will conflict with scheduled recordings in the next time slot, do not cancel any recordings. Record one as a "partial".

The INFO balloon for this request goes on to say:

"If one of the recordings has an identical future episode already in the GUIDE, make that one the "partial" and schedule a subsequent "full" recording, if it will not create a new conflict. Otherwise complete the earlier recording and have the lower priority later recording start late, or use absolute priority to determine which of the recordings should end early or start late.

EXAMPLES: Show A, originally scheduled to record from 8-9 on Monday is extended to 9:01. Shows B & C are scheduled to record from 9-10. Case 1: Prioritizer order is A first, then B, then C. Show A has an identical episode scheduled to air Sat night. Record partial A, full B, full C and add Saturday's A to the ToDo list as well. Case 2 (favor earlier recording, no add'l episodes available): Priority is B, C, A. Record full A, full B, partial C. Case 3 (priority rules, no add'l episodes available): Priority is B, C, A. Record partial A, full B, full C."

If you haven't yet taken the Wish List survey, please do so here and let D* know how you feel about this and other requests. /steve
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Posted 11 November 2007 - 02:40 PM

That seems to cover it, although it is much more complicated than what I had in mind. I would be happy to just have the second recording start late, but I would be more happy to have both. OTOH, the programming to make the broader scheme happen could get a bit hairy.

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 04:14 PM

Not sure if this have been requested, but will it ever be possible to record two shows simultaneously off the satellite tuners of the HR20? I know that I can watch a different channel than I am recording or record off the OTA and Satellite simultaneously. I have an old RCA UltimateTV that is capable of doing this. Anyone? Thanks.

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Posted 11 November 2007 - 05:03 PM

Not sure if this have been requested, but will it ever be possible to record two shows simultaneously off the satellite tuners of the HR20? I know that I can watch a different channel than I am recording or record off the OTA and Satellite simultaneously. I have an old RCA UltimateTV that is capable of doing this. Anyone? Thanks.

If you have both SAT lines's connected (or have a SWM), that capability exists now. You just can't watch LIVE TV (SAT or OTA) while you're doing it... only saved recordings from disk, or one of the recordings in progress.

If you're having difficulty doing this, you might want to double-check your setup indicates both SAT tuners are active. /steve
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