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eSATA is Awesome!!!


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#1 OFFLINE   deepthinker

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 12:58 AM

Well with the pending arrival of the new HD channels and the new upcoming TV season I decided to take the plunge with the eSATA. Found a Seagate 750 GB drive and an external enclosure for $250 shipped. Plugged it in and all was good from the get go. Man that is so much nicer than the old Tivo days with the Linux boot CD and having to stick crap in a PC. When the terabyte drives drop in price, I'll stick this drive on the second HR20 and grab one of those for the primary HR20. Bring on the new HD channels!!!!!!!:hurah:

Now, as soon as the Remote Booking and DOD options are mass released it's time to network. :)
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 01:38 AM

Well with the pending arrival of the new HD channels and the new upcoming TV season I decided to take the plunge with the eSATA. Found a Seagate 750 GB drive and an external enclosure for $250 shipped. Plugged it in and all was good from the get go. Man that is so much nicer than the old Tivo days with the Linux boot CD and having to stick crap in a PC. When the terabyte drives drop in price, I'll stick this drive on the second HR20 and grab one of those for the primary HR20. Bring on the new HD channels!!!!!!!:hurah:

Now, as soon as the Remote Booking and DOD options are mass released it's time to network. :)


After seeing a WD 750 GB bare disk drive on sale for $179 at Fry's this weekend, I was planing on doing the same thing, but then I got to thinking, why spend another $25-35 for an external ESATA enclosure and leave my current disk spinning uselessly inside my HR20 when I could just take my original disk out and replace it with the 750 GB one. Unlike what I've heard about the HR20-700s, disk access and removal/replacement is very easy on the HR20-100s, and as an added bonus, my HR20-100 didn't come with a "warranty void if seal broken" sticker, so if I ever need to return or replace my leased unit, I’ll just put the original disk back in and nobody will ever be the wiser.

The new 750GB disk is up and running inside my HR20 with no problems, and it seems to have about tripled my recording capacity, and best of all, no external enclosure to clutter things up and I’m not needlessly spinning my old disk while it’s not being used by the HR20 which will save a bit of energy and give me some additional backup power time from my UPS in the event of a power failure.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 02:41 AM

Is the drive formatted in NTFS or FAT32?

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 02:44 AM

Drive replacement on the HR20-700 was not that bad, takes about 15 minutes.
Trickiest part is removing the front faceplate.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 06:32 AM

I'm going to give it a try this holiday. Costco has a Seagate 750 for $225 and the only thing I need is an esata cable from somewhere. I believe you only have to pull plug on receiver, attach esata and plug receiver back in. Did you check to be sure esata is your main drive?

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:01 AM

Is the drive formatted in NTFS or FAT32?


DIRECTV uses their own format in partitions with Linux partition types. Very little else along those lines may be shared here at DBSTalk.com.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:02 AM

Moving this thread to the HR20 Information Resources subforum.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:47 AM

After seeing a WD 750 GB bare disk drive on sale for $179 at Fry's this weekend, I was planing on doing the same thing, but then I got to thinking, why spend another $25-35 for an external ESATA enclosure and leave my current disk spinning uselessly inside my HR20 when I could just take my original disk out and replace it with the 750 GB one. Unlike what I've heard about the HR20-700s, disk access and removal/replacement is very easy on the HR20-100s, and as an added bonus, my HR20-100 didn't come with a "warranty void if seal broken" sticker, so if I ever need to return or replace my leased unit, I’ll just put the original disk back in and nobody will ever be the wiser.

Is there any detail information available on how to do this. I agree this seems better than an external drive upgrade. Thanks.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 07:51 AM

After seeing a WD 750 GB bare disk drive on sale for $179 at Fry's this weekend, I was planing on doing the same thing, but then I got to thinking, why spend another $25-35 for an external ESATA enclosure and leave my current disk spinning uselessly inside my HR20 when I could just take my original disk out and replace it with the 750 GB one. Unlike what I've heard about the HR20-700s, disk access and removal/replacement is very easy on the HR20-100s, and as an added bonus, my HR20-100 didn't come with a "warranty void if seal broken" sticker, so if I ever need to return or replace my leased unit, I’ll just put the original disk back in and nobody will ever be the wiser.

The new 750GB disk is up and running inside my HR20 with no problems, and it seems to have about tripled my recording capacity, and best of all, no external enclosure to clutter things up and I’m not needlessly spinning my old disk while it’s not being used by the HR20 which will save a bit of energy and give me some additional backup power time from my UPS in the event of a power failure.


I like this idea! Just got 2 HR20-700s and have one question; did you simply unplug the existing drive and plug in the new un-formatted drive? Or, did you have to do anything else to get it up and running? Besides opening and closing the case, of course. Oh, and which drive interface is needed?
Having been a D* customer for 12 years it just seems too simple.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:10 AM

I like this idea! Just got 2 HR20-700s and have one question; did you simply unplug the existing drive and plug in the new un-formatted drive? Or, did you have to do anything else to get it up and running? Besides opening and closing the case, of course. Oh, and which drive interface is needed?
Having been a D* customer for 12 years it just seems too simple.

You have to power down the unit, plug in the eSata, and then plug in the HR20-700 again. I have 2 of these setups that work perfectly....yes...you are right...its great to have all that storage! :)
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:18 AM

Replacing the internal drive does not require formatting or file copy in advance. Some settings and all programming will be lost, but the drive is automatically discovered and formatted as necessary. (And this is true of either an internal replacement or external drive.)

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:34 AM

On an External, do I plug it into the USB port? Or what best?

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:34 AM

Replacing the internal drive does not require formatting or file copy in advance. Some settings and all programming will be lost, but the drive is automatically discovered and formatted as necessary. (And this is true of either an internal replacement or external drive.)

Cheers,
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Thanks Tom!
Do you know if the drive interface matters; can it be Serial ATA or Ultra ATA?

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 08:41 AM

Drive replacement on the HR20-700 was not that bad, takes about 15 minutes.
Trickiest part is removing the front faceplate.


Any hints on removing the faceplate?

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 10:08 AM

Back to the eSata solution. DeepThinker, can you tell me the exact enclosure you used - I may as well get one known to work ok. Thanks

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 02:55 PM

I like this idea! Just got 2 HR20-700s and have one question; did you simply unplug the existing drive and plug in the new un-formatted drive? Or, did you have to do anything else to get it up and running? Besides opening and closing the case, of course. Oh, and which drive interface is needed?
Having been a D* customer for 12 years it just seems too simple.



Yep, nothing to it other than physically swapping drives, and plugging the power and data cables into the new drive (and don't forget to plug the fan back in if you disconnected it in the swap process).

You need a 3.5" Serial ATA (SATA) drive, NOT an IDE drive.

I did it on a HR20-100 which was very easy to access/remove/replace the disk. The HR20-700's are a little trickier as far as mechanically getting to and removing the disk, but people here have done it.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 03:04 PM

Is there any detail information available on how to do this. I agree this seems better than an external drive upgrade. Thanks.

Jay


I will write up step by step instructions for the HR20-100 and post them in a new thread in this forum.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 05:09 PM

Drive replacement on the HR20-700 was not that bad, takes about 15 minutes.
Trickiest part is removing the front faceplate.


Thankfully, it has been greatly simplified on the HR20-100 on which no removal of the front faceplate is necessary.

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Posted 02 September 2007 - 05:43 PM

I much prefer the eSATA solution to changing the internal drive. It's easier to set up and much better for archiving stuff. If eSATA fills up and I want to keep it's content it's easy to get another eSATA and then switch back and forth between the 2 eSATA drives.
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Posted 02 September 2007 - 05:54 PM

I much prefer the eSATA solution to changing the internal drive. It's easier to set up and much better for archiving stuff. If eSATA fills up and I want to keep it's content it's easy to get another eSATA and then switch back and forth between the 2 eSATA drives.


Changing out the internal drive still allows you to do that, but now instead of a small capacity/unused internal drive, you have a big one and still have the ability to archive even more stuff on external eSATA drives. Also, I'd be very warry of building up a huge archive on external drives as it is all "locked" to that individual HR20 that it was recorded on. If you ever need to replace your HR20 for another unit (even the same model HR20), your archive will turn into a bunch of useless bits on all your external disk drives.




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