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HD Discussion: NFL Network (Channel 212)


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#21 OFFLINE   fazzmanic

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:00 PM

damn it!


what good is a hd channel with extremely limited hd content.


get on it nfl network, you def have the money.
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:24 PM

damn it!


what good is a hd channel with extremely limited hd content.


get on it nfl network, you def have the money.


Well, they suddenly have a lot more eyeballs now, and should be more motivated to upgrade.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:27 PM

Well, they suddenly have a lot more eyeballs now, and should be more motivated to upgrade.

And with pretty much everyone agreeing that the Big Ten Network studio stuff looks awesome....the NFL can't get shown up by them, can they? ;)

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:33 PM

And with pretty much everyone agreeing that the Big Ten Network studio stuff looks awesome....the NFL can't get shown up by them, can they? ;)


So far, yes :D

BTW, the Cincy-Seattle game replay on now looks much better than the previous one.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:43 PM

I got it now in regular HD format on 212 but the one on 9300 looks sharper to me. Is it just me?

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 12:57 PM

I got it now in regular HD format on 212 but the one on 9300 looks sharper to me. Is it just me?


Maybe :)

They look the same to me.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 01:08 PM

So far, yes :D

BTW, the Cincy-Seattle game replay on now looks much better than the previous one.


I agree, the Cincy/Seattle game replay looks better, but it is still sub-standard. I can really notice on the wide shots....the detail level is pretty poor (but far better than fully smeared SD)

I still can't get 9300....I get a subscription error 721. 9301 comes in fine.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 01:46 PM

I agree, the Cincy/Seattle game replay looks better, but it is still sub-standard. I can really notice on the wide shots....the detail level is pretty poor (but far better than fully smeared SD)


Agreed. I really want to assume that this is a source issue (NFL-HD, not CBS).

On the plus side, I'm not seeing significant macroblocking on motion shots.

I still can't get 9300....I get a subscription error 721. 9301 comes in fine.


Theory is that 9300 is using sports pack authorization -- it is showing NFL HD, but with an NHL logo on it; probably a placeholder for NHL Network programming that they don't have yet for uplinking.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 07:05 PM

Why are only certain NFL Replay games being in shown in HD? The Giants / Redskins game is on right now, and it's 4:3. I watched this game in HD when it was originally on.

NFL HD is probably the worst HD channel I've seen so far. Hardly anything on it is actually HD.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 07:08 PM

Why are only certain NFL Replay games being in shown in HD? The Giants / Redskins game is on right now, and it's 4:3. I watched this game in HD when it was originally on.

NFL HD is probably the worst HD channel I've seen so far. Hardly anything on it is actually HD.


Keep an eye out. Sometimes they switch over to 16x9 later. Very bizarre.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 07:10 PM

Keep an eye out. Sometimes they switch over to 16x9 later. Very bizarre.


Ok....What I don't get is this isn't a new HD channel. It sounds like it's being run like a rinky dink local channel that forgets to flip the "switch" when something is supposed to be in HD.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 07:48 PM

So....Total Access in SD tonight too. Are all the studio programs in SD? Only thing I've seen in HD was the NFL Replay.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 08:06 PM

So....Total Access in SD tonight too. Are all the studio programs in SD?


Yes, except pre-postgame shows for their few live games.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 08:10 PM

Recall that the building housing the HD equipment for NFL Network, Yes, A&E, and History channels went up in flames last week. While they are able to produce some product in HD, there is a lot they can not do yet. Repairs are underway, but it will be some time before everything is back to where they were a few weeks ago.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 08:51 PM

What is the deal with NFL Replay. Sunday Ticket Super Fan did not have Cards/Ravens available in HD but NFL Replay is on now and the Cards/Ravens is in HD. So Fox does brodcast the game in HD but DirectTV chooses not to show it in HD. Is this right? Are those 2 CBS games a week actually brodcasted in HD but DirectTV puts the no no on those too? I called DirectTV tonight and they said that the NFL tells them what games can and cannot be brodacst in HD . Does this make any sense? I know they have enough channels to be able to show all the games in HD so what the hell is going on????????????????????

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 10:05 PM

SuperFan re-broadcasts in HD all games that are broadcasted in HD by the networks. Either you are mistaken about the game replay being HD or CBS recorded in HD but did not broadcast that way. (And the NFL was given a copy?) The hard part is I find either option difficult to believe. :)

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 10:43 PM

Does this make any sense?


No, not really. I refer you to Tom's correct statement above. DirecTV shows in HD every NFL Sunday afternoon game that is broadcast in HD. It's that simple.

Sometimes people get confused because some non-HD FOX games are presented in widescreen SD format on local OTA channels. The quality of these broadcasts can be pretty good--good enough that a lot of people think they are HD games. They are not, and DirecTV does not show those games in widescreen SD, only 4:3 SD. I would imagine that this is due to the fact that they currently face bandwidth issues on Sunday afternoons, and choose not to dedicate an HD channel to a SD upconvert.

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 10:46 PM

Fox did the Cards/Ravens game in Fox Widescreen format. That was the "ugly redheaded stepchild" game of the week for Fox. Check out the weekly thread but gct to find out which games are in HD weekly for Superfan.
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 12:20 AM

Fox did the Cards/Ravens game in Fox Widescreen format. That was the "ugly redheaded stepchild" game of the week for Fox. Check out the weekly thread but gct to find out which games are in HD weekly for Superfan.


This is the first thing I saw on NFLHD today. It looked terrible but reading about the fire Im not going to jump on them over this one game. :P
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Posted 27 September 2007 - 01:11 AM

SuperFan re-broadcasts in HD all games that are broadcasted in HD by the networks. Either you are mistaken about the game replay being HD or CBS recorded in HD but did not broadcast that way. (And the NFL was given a copy?) The hard part is I find either option difficult to believe.

Every NFL game is produced in HD, it's only network capacity that prevents some of them from being broadcast that way. If the recording is made from the production truck, it is very possible that NFL Network could show the game in HD while CBS didn't. I'm not saying that's what happened here, because I don't know. Just explaining how it could be possible.




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