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#26 OFFLINE   TomF

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 12:20 PM

I was pretty sure I'd heard that the FIA produces F1 races in HD for the F1 Films unit. Let me hunt :)

I seem to remember reading that F1 is available in HD throughout Europe.
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Posted 15 October 2007 - 12:21 PM

I seem to remember reading that F1 is available in HD throughout Europe.


that I know is false, 16:9 SD. Not many European HD channels yet.

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 12:36 PM

I seem to remember reading that F1 is available in HD throughout Europe.


This is the only thing I could find regarding F1 and HD. It is from autosport.com back in May.

http://www.autosport...rt.php/id/58776

F1 to offer High Definition TV coverage

By Jonathan Noble Sunday, May 13th 2007, 08:59 GMT

Formula One looks set to be broadcast in High Definition as of later this season, even though the sport's supremo Bernie Ecclestone has reservations about such a move.

Plans are being put in place to upgrade the television cameras and production facilities that provide the world television feed to allow the HD footage to be available to F1's television broadcasters.

Ecclestone said he did not know when the sport would switch over to the higher quality footage, but confirmed to autosport.com that it would be at some point later this year. Other sports, including football and golf, have already gone the HD route.

But although the move will be welcome by a number of fans, Ecclestone has admitted he is in a quandary about the matter because of the limited number of channels that broadcast in high definition.

That is why he felt it more important for F1 to be available in a widescreen format to allow for bigger pictures on more people's television sets.

"The trouble with High Definition is that there are not many people who have got the equipment to receive it, so there is not much point," he said.

"We are really broadcasting for the big screen now, rather than worrying about HD."

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 12:40 PM

http://insider.speed...der=asc&start=0

nice image of a 16:9 image at least. seems like we'll get upconverted 576i (PAL)

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 12:50 PM

"The trouble with High Definition is that there are not many people who have got the equipment to receive it, so there is not much point," he said.
"We are really broadcasting for the big screen now, rather than worrying about HD."

What an ironic statement from a sport that is widely regarded as being at the pinnacle of cutting edge technology.

SISLink is providing a dedicated dual antenna HD uplink truck for the Eurpean Grand Prix ITV Sport broadcasts for the 2007 season.
Not that Europe has a mature HD market, but it seems F1 is trying to get their feet wet in HD broadcasting to some degree.

I read on pitpass that had it not been for negotiations with Panasonic to get HD videocameras, they would have had HD sooner. Somewhat conflicting information, but that is in line with F1 nowadays.

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SISLink has won the contract to supply ITV Sport with satellite facilities for its F1 coverage or the next four years.
The deal, beginning with the Australian Grand Prix in Melbourne this March, will see the satellite service provider responsible for uplink provision of 16 of the 17 worldwide events.

All satellite connectivity will be provided from each international location by SISLink. Also included within the contract is two-way broadband IP over satellite and 100% turnaround connection, handled in the UK via SISLink's London Teleport.

Supporting the extensive, high-profile coverage, will be a dedicated dual antenna HD truck which SISLink are building exclusively for the eight European events. The truck, which is designed for maximum resilience, is set to become one of the most complex and highly specified uplink trucks ever built. Every part of the truck will be fully redundant with uplink diversity to include separation of RF chains, power supplies and baseband connectivity. Additionally, the truck will comprise a complete UPS system to prevent any picture loss and deliver a totally reliable and robust solution.


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Posted 15 October 2007 - 01:10 PM

I guess the NASCAR replays will be in HD but most of their content is SD?

HD Net has had a lock on HD NASCAR replays in the past. I'd doubt that is going to change this season.

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 01:10 PM

Ah. Nice to know about Brazil in widescreen. I had just called the SPEED Charlotte offices and left voice mail messages asking the same thing. :)

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 01:49 PM

This is the channel I've been waiting for...

:) widecreen brazil

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:26 PM

I'll be interested to see how a studio show like "Inside Nextel Cup" looks tonight.

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:43 PM

Just got an email back from Speed TV, asking about the last race of the season. Here is their response:

Although produced in HD, Formula 1 races are not available to any
broadcaster in that format. We hope that situation will change in 2008.
The F1 event from Brazil will be shown in upconverted 16x9 aspect ratio.


Does that mean SPEED won the broadcast rights for 2008?

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 03:58 PM

Does that mean SPEED won the broadcast rights for 2008?

Last race of the season for the drivers championship.

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Newscorp does a deal for F1 in America

Speed TV is teaming up with its brother company Fox Sports for a new three-year deal to cover Formula 1 in the United States of America. Fox will broadcast four events in 2007 with live coverage from the US and Canadian Grand Prix while Speed will air the remaining 13 events live, including coverage of practice and qualifying.

The commentary team will be led by Bob Varsha, with analysis from former F1 driver David Hobbs and former F1 mechanic Steve Matchett. Formula 1 journalist Peter Windsor will provide reports from the pits and from the starting grid.

"Speed has served F1 fans for 11 consecutive seasons with live coverage of racing, practice and qualifying, but this new deal will bring unprecedented consistency and exposure to the North American television audience," says Hunter Nickell, Speed's General Manager. "With Fox adding muscle to the North American events and the experienced Speed team calling the entire race season, it will be the coolest year ever to be an F1 fan on this continent."

Fox Sports will broadcast Canada, Indianapolis, France and Britain.

http://www.grandprix...ns/ns17812.html

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 04:21 PM

Newscorp does a deal for F1 in America

Speed TV is teaming up with its brother company Fox Sports for a new three-year deal to cover Formula 1 in the United States of America. Fox will broadcast four events in 2007 with live coverage from the US and Canadian Grand Prix while Speed will air the remaining 13 events live, including coverage of practice and qualifying.

The commentary team will be led by Bob Varsha, with analysis from former F1 driver David Hobbs and former F1 mechanic Steve Matchett. Formula 1 journalist Peter Windsor will provide reports from the pits and from the starting grid.

"Speed has served F1 fans for 11 consecutive seasons with live coverage of racing, practice and qualifying, but this new deal will bring unprecedented consistency and exposure to the North American television audience," says Hunter Nickell, Speed's General Manager. "With Fox adding muscle to the North American events and the experienced Speed team calling the entire race season, it will be the coolest year ever to be an F1 fan on this continent."

Fox Sports will broadcast Canada, Indianapolis, France and Britain.

http://www.grandprix...ns/ns17812.html


Yeah, that article is from November 2006. Things have changed somewhat. As it stands now there will be no 2008 USGP ...... not from Indy anyway. And I kind of remember the 2007 races that were not broadcast by SPEED were on CBS. ...... with exceptionally lousy commentating.
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Posted 15 October 2007 - 04:25 PM

HD Net has had a lock on HD NASCAR replays in the past. I'd doubt that is going to change this season.


Speed shows replays also Thursday morning for both busch and cup, HDnet replays cup on thursday's also but in the evening

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 04:31 PM

Yeah, that article is from November 2006. Things have changed somewhat. As it stands now there will be no 2008 USGP ...... not from Indy anyway. And I kind of remember the 2007 races that were not broadcast by SPEED were on CBS. ...... with exceptionally lousy commentating.


The 2006 races were on CBS a couple of times. Fox did the 2007 races. Bob, David, Steve, and Peter have been the only team to do races on US television this year.

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Posted 15 October 2007 - 06:29 PM

When considering all this talk about HD coverage next year, remember one thing: F1 is all about the money.

Just like when you have to pay DTV more for HD than for SD, Bernie will not just go bundling HD content into the existing TV contract for free. So of course he's talking down HD coverage, so when his representatives talk to the potential channel outlets for it, they can act like it's something special and worth paying more for.

For the right amount of money, you can be sure F1 will be available in HD next year. Although it's unlikely SPEED will be upping their payments, especially with Scott Speed out and no USGP.
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Posted 15 October 2007 - 09:56 PM

Yeah, that article is from November 2006. Things have changed somewhat. As it stands now there will be no 2008 USGP ...... not from Indy anyway. And I kind of remember the 2007 races that were not broadcast by SPEED were on CBS. ...... with exceptionally lousy commentating.


Three year contract that runs through the 2009 season. Since the contract probably did not depend on there being a USGP then it will probably keep running until the contract is supposed to end.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 05:15 AM

I'm really hoping the ALMS is in HD next year. The announcement of a new TV deal with Speed still leaves it open for 2008. Unfortunately, the other races are on CBS/NBC and they do an even worse job with ALMS than CBS did with F1 in the 2005/06 seasons.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 07:38 AM

Disappointing to see Pinks in letterbox with pillars too. Shrink-o-vision? At least both of my TVs can zoom with HD material and it will still look better than the SD channel. Maybe in a week or so they will surprise us like SciFi did.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:01 AM

No returned calls from SPEED HQ in Charlotte. I switched my F1 recordings this weekend to the HD channel. Come noon Friday we'll see what they've got. :)

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 10:13 AM

Disappointing to see Pinks in letterbox with pillars too. Shrink-o-vision? At least both of my TVs can zoom with HD material and it will still look better than the SD channel. Maybe in a week or so they will surprise us like SciFi did.


No what is disappointing is to see Pinks in the first place. HAHAHA. I was hopping we would get a new channel that would leave out all the BS content they cram down our throats. Like NASCAR this NASCAR that, Pinks this Pinks that, Pimp my ride knock off and crap like that.

It drives me nuts.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 03:44 PM

No what is disappointing is to see Pinks in the first place. HAHAHA. I was hopping we would get a new channel that would leave out all the BS content they cram down our throats. Like NASCAR this NASCAR that, Pinks this Pinks that, Pimp my ride knock off and crap like that.

It drives me nuts.

You just read my mind. Give me some good pure road racing.

Speed really is 90% steaming piles of crap. I wish we could get a channel that brings us more real racing content, and European programming: WRC, FIA-GT, DTM, WTCC, BTCC, etc and not this 1 hour summary crap Speed puts on to fill in between NASCRAP seasons. And Speed keeps cutting back on coverage of enduros – they cut into the Petit Le mans to show NASCAR qualifying and truck racing.

It's only a matter of time before they preempt an F1 race to show ARCA practice.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 04:26 PM

HD Net has had a lock on HD NASCAR replays in the past. I'd doubt that is going to change this season.


Somebody better tell ESPN, then, because I've watched my fair share of replays in HD on ESPN and ESPN2.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 05:12 PM

The 2006 races were on CBS a couple of times. Fox did the 2007 races.


Where does the time go when you're having fun?

Bob, David, Steve, and Peter have been the only team to do races on US television this year.


None better at it either..... although I am waiting for someone on the grid to bitch slap Peter for interrupting.

Three year contract that runs through the 2009 season. Since the contract probably did not depend on there being a USGP then it will probably keep running until the contract is supposed to end.


Outstanding.

To bad a return to Watkins Glen for the USGP is an unrealistic dream. The drive to Montreal is getting old. ALMS at Lime Rock is good but no comparison.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 05:19 PM

I watched Speed channel years ago for the rally racing (WRC), that's the only type of racing I'm interested in. Anyone know if they still show it at all? Any in HD?

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:22 PM

Where does the time go when you're having fun?



None better at it either..... although I am waiting for someone on the grid to bitch slap Peter for interrupting.



Outstanding.

To bad a return to Watkins Glen for the USGP is an unrealistic dream. The drive to Montreal is getting old. ALMS at Lime Rock is good but no comparison.


Watkins Glen would be fantastic. But as you say, it won't happen.

I personally think Penske's newly updated Belle Isle course in Detroit is the most likely candidate. I'd actually go so far as to say it'll be there or nothing next year.
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