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HD Discusson: Speed (Channel 607)


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#51 OFFLINE   Redlinetire

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:44 PM

I watched Speed channel years ago for the rally racing (WRC), that's the only type of racing I'm interested in. Anyone know if they still show it at all? Any in HD?


Lot's of rumors (they will/they won't) but nothing definitive.

But 99.99% sure if they do, it won't be in HD. I think it's shot in PAL format now.
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Posted 16 October 2007 - 08:54 PM

Personally I am hoping for Laguna Seca, nice track layout the corkscrew would offer them something a little different.

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Posted 16 October 2007 - 09:45 PM

Personally I am hoping for Laguna Seca, nice track layout the corkscrew would offer them something a little different.


Laguna Seca is kinda too small for F1 cars nowadays. There'd be zero passing (even less than usual).

Getting people in and out is pretty difficult (not enough hotels or airports nearby, etc), but then again, they do manage the MotoGP race, and it gets a lot of fans.
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Posted 17 October 2007 - 06:53 AM

Since they aren't going to be in HD until Feb. '08 hard to say this is a HD Channel (IMO) especially since there is so many other HD Channels still out there.

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 07:26 AM

Since they aren't going to be in HD until Feb. '08 hard to say this is a HD Channel (IMO) especially since there is so many other HD Channels still out there.


They may do an official launch in Feb 08, but they have a lot of content that is produced in HD or can easily be upconverted to a 720p signal.

This weekend will tell with the F1 race and Truck series in Martinsville. Maybe you'll get NASCAR Race day in HD or some of the other shows that are shot onsite.

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 07:32 AM

SPEED will make its move to High Definition in 2008, beginning Feb. 7 with 100 hours of NASCAR on SPEED HD from Daytona Speedweeks.

“With the Gatorade Duel 150’s on SPEED, the NASCAR Craftsman Truck Series race, NASCAR RaceDay and all of the other programming SPEED will deliver surrounding the 50th Anniversary of the Daytona 500, this is one of our most visible times of the year for the network and the perfect time to launch our move to HD,” said SPEED President Hunter Nickell. “SPEED already offers some of the most action-filled programming on television and the move to HD in 2008 enhances all of it exponentially.”

Topping the 70-million U.S. household mark and coming off four consecutive years of ratings growth in 2007, the move to High Definition is the next step in the evolution of a network that has added more than 30 million homes since being fully acquired by Fox Cable Networks in 2001.

“SPEED is now one of the most important and popular of all the national cable sports networks, so it’s somewhat inevitable that we provide our many partners and their customers with this HD companion,” said Michael Biard, Senior Vice President of Affiliate Sales and Marketing for Fox Cable Networks.

In addition to its season-long, at-track coverage of NASCAR, with programs including NASCAR RaceDay, Trackside, NASCAR Victory Lane, Tradin’ Paint, NASCAR Live!, NASCAR Performance and Go or Go Home, SPEED also will explore opportunities to bring other racing series and special events to viewers in HD in 2008.

“Over the course of the 2008 season, SPEED will be transitioning all of its event programming to HD,” said Rick Miner, SPEED Senior VP of Production and Network Operations, who is shepherding the project. “We already are in discussions to design and commission the development of remote HD production facilities that will be in full use in 2008.”

In addition to its HD programming surrounding the 50th Anniversary of The Great American Race from Daytona, SPEED also will be ready to launch new seasons of its popular automotive and motorcycle lifestyle programming in HD, including PINKS, PINKS All Out and Super Bikes!

In a move that began earlier this summer, SPEED programming is now commissioned in true 16:9 HD.

In addition to the bold moves on the television side, SPEED’s interactive division will raise the bar as well, with a re-launch of a completely re-tooled SPEEDtv.com slated for early February. The new site will feature dramatic across the board improvements in depth and timeliness of motor sports news and information, delivered through a new wide-screen format that is optimized for easy navigation, interactivity with mobile and other applications, social networking and customization. Registered SPEED Insiders (www.speedtv.com/insider) will get a sneak peek at the new SPEEDtv.com in early in January.

SPEED is the nation's first and foremost cable television network dedicated to motor sports and the passion for everything automotive. From racing to restoration, motorcycles to movies, SPEED delivers quality programming from the track to the garage. Now available in more than 77 million homes in North America, SPEED is among the fastest-growing sports cable networks in the country, the home to NASCAR on SPEED and an industry leader in interactive TV, video on demand, mobile initiatives and broadband services.

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 08:11 AM

I was pretty sure I'd heard that the FIA produces F1 races in HD for the F1 Films unit. Let me hunt :)


This is what I read too. Sure would have been nice if they could give F1 fans a teaser by showing the Brazil GP in HD to end the season.

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 08:24 AM

Since they aren't going to be in HD until Feb. '08 hard to say this is a HD Channel (IMO) especially since there is so many other HD Channels still out there.


You've never heard of a "soft launch"? They're up now, but not full steam.

Many retail outlets do this sort of thing, quietly opening the doors in advance of the big, loud GRAND OPENING to give everyone a chance to shake out the bugs in real world conditions before the big rush.

If they held back until February, launched with all the noise and glitz, and then fell flat on their face from a bug that wasn't caught because they weren't live yet, it would be a colossal embarrassment for all involved.

Consider this an "installation lap" or a "shakedown cruise" to make sure everything's in working order.

If it gets me Brazil in widescreen this weekend, I'll be happy. :)

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Posted 17 October 2007 - 10:38 AM

I know I've seen racing highlights in HD on ESPNHD that had the Speed logo in the corner of the screen. I think there is a good chance that the truck qualifying and race from Martinsville will be in HD on Speed. They probably will use ESPN's cameras that are there to cover the Cup race.
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Posted 17 October 2007 - 01:23 PM

I am sure SPEED would love to, but since the worldwide feed from FOM is shot in something less than HD (580p or something like that) 16X9, I think SPEED's hands are tied by the feed they are given.

I am a bettin man that we at least get the 16X9 version though.

This is what I read too. Sure would have been nice if they could give F1 fans a teaser by showing the Brazil GP in HD to end the season.



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Posted 18 October 2007 - 10:21 AM

Watching the Nascar Busch Race on SpeedHD now and this race was on ESPN2HD, but it is showing in SD on the Speed HD channel. So it looks like we will not see any full screen HD until Speed HD actually launches.

Looks as if Directv is adding channels that are not really HD. SPEED, FUEL, FX...

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Posted 18 October 2007 - 10:24 AM

Watching the Nascar Busch Race on SpeedHD now and this race was on ESPN2HD, but it is showing in SD on the Speed HD channel. So it looks like we will not see any full screen HD until Speed HD actually launches.

Looks as if Directv is adding channels that are not really HD. SPEED, FUEL, FX...


It's not the fault of D* that SPEED isn't sending out HD content.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 09:46 AM

Just got an email back from Speed TV, asking about the last race of the season. Here is their response:

Although produced in HD, Formula 1 races are not available to any
broadcaster in that format. We hope that situation will change in 2008.
The F1 event from Brazil will be shown in upconverted 16x9 aspect ratio.


Well, about 15 minutes from now we shall see if they are correct.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 10:02 AM

They lied. :(

Let's just say, they were not well informed. Oh well. Perhaps they might get it together by race day.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 10:06 AM

And it's the lunch hour at SPEED HQ in Charlotte, no there's no one available to complain to directly.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 10:55 AM

Still looks better than SD...
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Posted 19 October 2007 - 11:00 AM

Still looks better than SD...


Oh yes. Much, much better. :)

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 11:06 AM

yeah but i was really hoping for the 16x9

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 12:15 PM

I couldn't get anyone I spoke to @ SPEED to speak about what was going on with the F1 broadcast today, but I did find out that a) they do receive the 16x9 feed that FOM sends out, and B) the HD channel in it's present state is a "soft launch" to get the bugs shaken out before the big launch in February.

There's still qualifying and the race itself to go. I left voice mail messages with people and programming, and spoke with one guy in operations, so they are apparently aware of the situation.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 01:54 PM

Maybe the rest of the weekend will be better.

It's Fox in Los Angeles that distributes all the Fox owned channels out to the providers, so I'd blame the Fox people who distribute the channel out to DirecTV. We know the speed guys can handle 16x9 cause they did it for the fox broadcasts earlier this year.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 02:37 PM

I left feedback and got this reply:

Although DirecTV is upconverting our signal to HD, our origination facility in Los Angeles is not capable of splitting the feed. Expect 2008's Australian Grand rix to be the first Formula 1 race televised in high definition in the US.


so i'm thinking its very unlikely that we'd get the 16x9 feed on speed hd (unless they show it on the SD channel too, which would mean letterbox + pillarbox on speed hd)

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 02:41 PM

Wow, so much for our 16:9 hopes for this year, I guess. :(

However, I suppose I will queue it up to record on the HR20, as it might still be better quality than the normal SD channel.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 07:13 PM

So basically this channel isn't their feed in HD, it's simply D* taking it and sending it out as HD?

That would explain a lot....:mad:
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Posted 19 October 2007 - 07:22 PM

That response from Speed is concerning. It indicates that the SpeedHD channel does not yet exist, and DirecTV is upconverting the regular channel just so they can add another 'HD' channel to their list. THis is different than other channels which were broadcasting separately where we could blame the broadcaster. As far as I am concerned this is a phony HD channel.

I could guess that maybe DirecTV did this because they were originally told by Speed that they would be ready, and after making marketing promises, D* and Speed agreed to do this so that the numbers could be met, however, it's just as possible that maybe Speed never made any promises to D*. All I know is that to me, upconverting someone's SD broadcast and calling it a national HD channel fails my smell test.

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Posted 19 October 2007 - 07:28 PM

That response from Speed is concerning. It indicates that the SpeedHD channel does not yet exist, and DirecTV is upconverting the regular channel just so they can add another 'HD' channel to their list. THis is different than other channels which were broadcasting separately where we could blame the broadcaster. As far as I am concerned this is a phony HD channel.

I could guess that maybe DirecTV did this because they were originally told by Speed that they would be ready, and after making marketing promises, D* and Speed agreed to do this so that the numbers could be met, however, it's just as possible that maybe Speed never made any promises to D*. All I know is that to me, upconverting someone's SD broadcast and calling it a national HD channel fails my smell test.


According to a couple people I spoke with at SPEED today when I called Charlotte about the F1 situation, they said that they were in fact broadcasting in HD on that channel, but did not have much HD programming to serve up yet. This is kind of a "soft launch" where they don't call much attention to themselves so they can test things out in real world situations prior to the official launch.

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