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HD Discusson: Biography HD (Channel 266)


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#26 ONLINE   sigma1914

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:03 PM

My 2 Samsungs unstretch, FWIW.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:09 PM

how are they treating material that airs in 16:9 letterbox on the SD channel? Are they showing it letterboxed and stretched, or are they showing it full screen 16:9?

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:53 PM

The guide doesn't indicate any HD today, but it may be that Tribune doesn't have an update yet. On my Vizio TV, I can unstretch by setting the TV to Normal instead of Wide, but would prefer it wasn't stretched in the first place.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 02:30 PM

Paid programming sounds like programming; just nothing I'd want to see. :)


I'm just waiting for the topic: "When will Paid Programming be in HD?"

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:47 PM

I have a Sony 60A3000 and it unstretches by setting the aspect to Normal instead of Wide. I mapped the "A" button on my Harmony 676 to the Aspect control. It sucks that I even have to use it, but it's pretty darn easy.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:49 PM

Interesting. On my 2 HR20-700's channel 266 is labeled BIOHD and is HD 4x3 stretched but on my H20 the channel is labeled BIO and in 4x3 (non high def non stretched).
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 06:12 PM

What model is your vizio? I have a 37" Vizio LCD and on 1080i or 720p signals i can only do Wide or Zoom. (on HDMI anyway, never tried component)

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 06:47 PM

Interesting... I checked this morning and when I got home and hour ago and no BioHD. Now, it shows up. In fact the only channel for Bio is BioHD, no SD, but I'm not bothered by the no SD option.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:11 PM

Bio HD is now showing an actual HD program. An edition of Biography on the Culkins.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:17 PM

OK, to me the Biography show at 8PM CDT about the Culkins appears to be in 'true' HD.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 10:14 PM

I guess I'm the only one who will take "stretch-o-vision" over 4:3 anytime; I have a very good Hitachi CRT RPTV that suffered severe burn-in from watching too much 4:3 content, and I'm not going there again. There is 60 years worth of 4:3 television entertainment out there and I hope it does not all get replaced by "new" content just because it is in "True HD" - nothing against HD at all, of course, but in my situation, personally I have no choice and I'm not parting with this TV.

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 12:43 AM

how are they treating material that airs in 16:9 letterbox on the SD channel? Are they showing it letterboxed and stretched, or are they showing it full screen 16:9?

If it's SD, then they are showing it as stretched letterbox.
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 12:53 AM

I have a Sony 60A3000 and it unstretches by setting the aspect to Normal instead of Wide. I mapped the "A" button on my Harmony 676 to the Aspect control. It sucks that I even have to use it, but it's pretty darn easy.

Sure, it's easy. For me. I know where all the weird buttons on my universal remote are too. My wife, however, doesn't and is pissed off at all the stretched video.

The issue isn't that you can or cannot fix the stretching, it's that there IS a standard and these stations ignore it. I can either set the HR20 to default to where these stations look normal, or to where the other 90% do.

All stations should show this stuff the same way, and all TVs should be able to default to the user's chosen aspect ratio. Failing that there should be FCC-mandated flags.
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 07:19 AM

The issue isn't that you can or cannot fix the stretching, it's that there IS a standard and these stations ignore it. I can either set the HR20 to default to where these stations look normal, or to where the other 90% do.

All stations should show this stuff the same way, and all TVs should be able to default to the user's chosen aspect ratio. Failing that there should be FCC-mandated flags.

I wholeheartedly agree. Broadcasters should broadcast in the purest form without any modifications. It's that way in the movie industry. Spielberg will not let any of his films be shown any other way except the way it was intended. The same should apply to television. But here we go again - this belongs in another thread.

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 10:37 PM

Maybe it's time to buy a new TV? For me a simple press of a button on my remote returns the image to 4:3 and the image looks much better than the SD version for me. There is DEFINETLY an improvement in watching the HD version of the channel over the SD.


No, actually its time for proper aspect ratios.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 11:37 AM

^^

I agree. Leave it up to the viewer to distort the image to their heart's content.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 02:33 PM

I guess I'm the only one who will take "stretch-o-vision" over 4:3 anytime; I have a very good Hitachi CRT RPTV that suffered severe burn-in from watching too much 4:3 content, and I'm not going there again. There is 60 years worth of 4:3 television entertainment out there and I hope it does not all get replaced by "new" content just because it is in "True HD" - nothing against HD at all, of course, but in my situation, personally I have no choice and I'm not parting with this TV.


If your TV is prone to burn-in and it cannot stretch content on its own, then it is not a "very good" TV.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 09:14 PM

I'm updating my favorites - where was the 'old' SD channel? I was going to remove it so I wouldn't have duplicates but I can't find it.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 09:19 PM

Same channel...if you have Hide SD Duplicates on, then it is removed for you.
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Posted 30 November 2007 - 09:45 PM

If it's SD, then they are showing it as stretched letterbox.

ugh. how unfortunate. I will say one thing for BIO HD. they have a really good scaler, because everything looks REALLY good on this channel, just unfortunate about the stretching.

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Posted 30 November 2007 - 09:58 PM

They have shown some HD in primetime. Looks like stuff made in 2007 tends to be HD.
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Posted 01 December 2007 - 05:53 PM

...yeah, and if only BioHD had some real HD content. Everything I've seen to far is stretch-o-vision.

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Posted 01 December 2007 - 05:55 PM

...yeah, and if only BioHD had some real HD content. Everything I've seen to far is stretch-o-vision.

The Borgraphy show at 8PM central has been showing real HD content and sometimes in the couple hours afterwards, it's not all stretch-o-vision.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 06:48 AM

But most of it is unwatchable stretched crap, which makes the "hide SD duplicates" option unusable. As bad as the SD channel looks, it still looks better than the blurry stretched 1080i channel.

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Posted 03 December 2007 - 02:54 PM

I watched it last night and it looked fine to me maby stretched but better then my tv can stretch sd . ilike a&e network




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