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HD Discusson: Biography HD (Channel 266)


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#21 OFFLINE   man_rob

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 10:48 AM

Maybe it's time to buy a new TV? For me a simple press of a button on my remote returns the image to 4:3 and the image looks much better than the SD version for me. There is DEFINETLY an improvement in watching the HD version of the channel over the SD.


Do you have your DirecTV receiver connected via HDMI, or component?

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#22 OFFLINE   gully_foyle

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 11:19 AM

Starting out, at least half of their prime time line up will be in HD. They are also producing with virtually all of their new programs in HD. By early to mid '08, prime time HD content will be up to 65%.

http://www.multichan.../CA6501581.html


SO, that's what, 8% of their full-time content? And the rest is stretch-o-vision?

You know, this is really sad. Every station that has mostly SD on the HD feed is still great in SD, because it's full-bandwidth SD, not the bit-starved trash that DirecTV uses on its standard feeds. But when it's stretched, it's an eyesore and a pristine eyesore is worse than a bit-starved one.

Yes, I can fix it some (after pushing several buttons), but that means I have to change settings away from those that work on over 90% of HD stations. One setting for stations that abide by national standards, one setting for moron broadcasters.

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#23 OFFLINE   Crypter

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 12:01 PM

Do you have your DirecTV receiver connected via HDMI, or component?


HDMI.

I thought most NEW HDTV's had the ability to UNSTRECH a streched image. My TV is a 1080p DLP and it has an aspect Ratio toggle button which I mapped into the DirecTV ACtivity on my Logitech HArmony remote and it is a simple press of the button to make it 4:3 or 16:9.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 12:09 PM

HDMI.

I thought most NEW HDTV's had the ability to UNSTRECH a streched image. My TV is a 1080p DLP and it has an aspect Ratio toggle button which I mapped into the DirecTV ACtivity on my Logitech HArmony remote and it is a simple press of the button to make it 4:3 or 16:9.


I have not actually seen a TV that does unstretch even though a very few folks here have mentioned they have one. And I have personally installed 7 TVs in the past 16 months for friends and family of varying brands.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 12:26 PM

SO, that's what, 8% of their full-time content? And the rest is stretch-o-vision?

You know, this is really sad. Every station that has mostly SD on the HD feed is still great in SD, because it's full-bandwidth SD, not the bit-starved trash that DirecTV uses on its standard feeds. But when it's stretched, it's an eyesore and a pristine eyesore is worse than a bit-starved one.

Yes, I can fix it some (after pushing several buttons), but that means I have to change settings away from those that work on over 90% of HD stations. One setting for stations that abide by national standards, one setting for moron broadcasters.

How long will it take for A&E's management to get the message?


You're right. This has all the earmarks of an eyesore.:)
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:03 PM

My 2 Samsungs unstretch, FWIW.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:09 PM

how are they treating material that airs in 16:9 letterbox on the SD channel? Are they showing it letterboxed and stretched, or are they showing it full screen 16:9?

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 01:53 PM

The guide doesn't indicate any HD today, but it may be that Tribune doesn't have an update yet. On my Vizio TV, I can unstretch by setting the TV to Normal instead of Wide, but would prefer it wasn't stretched in the first place.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 02:30 PM

Paid programming sounds like programming; just nothing I'd want to see. :)


I'm just waiting for the topic: "When will Paid Programming be in HD?"

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:47 PM

I have a Sony 60A3000 and it unstretches by setting the aspect to Normal instead of Wide. I mapped the "A" button on my Harmony 676 to the Aspect control. It sucks that I even have to use it, but it's pretty darn easy.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 03:49 PM

Interesting. On my 2 HR20-700's channel 266 is labeled BIOHD and is HD 4x3 stretched but on my H20 the channel is labeled BIO and in 4x3 (non high def non stretched).
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 06:12 PM

What model is your vizio? I have a 37" Vizio LCD and on 1080i or 720p signals i can only do Wide or Zoom. (on HDMI anyway, never tried component)

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 06:47 PM

Interesting... I checked this morning and when I got home and hour ago and no BioHD. Now, it shows up. In fact the only channel for Bio is BioHD, no SD, but I'm not bothered by the no SD option.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:11 PM

Bio HD is now showing an actual HD program. An edition of Biography on the Culkins.
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Posted 28 November 2007 - 08:17 PM

OK, to me the Biography show at 8PM CDT about the Culkins appears to be in 'true' HD.

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Posted 28 November 2007 - 10:14 PM

I guess I'm the only one who will take "stretch-o-vision" over 4:3 anytime; I have a very good Hitachi CRT RPTV that suffered severe burn-in from watching too much 4:3 content, and I'm not going there again. There is 60 years worth of 4:3 television entertainment out there and I hope it does not all get replaced by "new" content just because it is in "True HD" - nothing against HD at all, of course, but in my situation, personally I have no choice and I'm not parting with this TV.

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 12:43 AM

how are they treating material that airs in 16:9 letterbox on the SD channel? Are they showing it letterboxed and stretched, or are they showing it full screen 16:9?

If it's SD, then they are showing it as stretched letterbox.
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 12:53 AM

I have a Sony 60A3000 and it unstretches by setting the aspect to Normal instead of Wide. I mapped the "A" button on my Harmony 676 to the Aspect control. It sucks that I even have to use it, but it's pretty darn easy.

Sure, it's easy. For me. I know where all the weird buttons on my universal remote are too. My wife, however, doesn't and is pissed off at all the stretched video.

The issue isn't that you can or cannot fix the stretching, it's that there IS a standard and these stations ignore it. I can either set the HR20 to default to where these stations look normal, or to where the other 90% do.

All stations should show this stuff the same way, and all TVs should be able to default to the user's chosen aspect ratio. Failing that there should be FCC-mandated flags.
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Posted 29 November 2007 - 07:19 AM

The issue isn't that you can or cannot fix the stretching, it's that there IS a standard and these stations ignore it. I can either set the HR20 to default to where these stations look normal, or to where the other 90% do.

All stations should show this stuff the same way, and all TVs should be able to default to the user's chosen aspect ratio. Failing that there should be FCC-mandated flags.

I wholeheartedly agree. Broadcasters should broadcast in the purest form without any modifications. It's that way in the movie industry. Spielberg will not let any of his films be shown any other way except the way it was intended. The same should apply to television. But here we go again - this belongs in another thread.

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 10:37 PM

Maybe it's time to buy a new TV? For me a simple press of a button on my remote returns the image to 4:3 and the image looks much better than the SD version for me. There is DEFINETLY an improvement in watching the HD version of the channel over the SD.


No, actually its time for proper aspect ratios.




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