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#26 OFFLINE   SPACEMAKER

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Posted 29 January 2008 - 10:58 PM

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:08 AM

Well, it's now been 9 months and still no one seems to have informed MTV that they've been given an HD channel. Even the season premier of The Hills this week is still being show in 4x3 letterbox.

If they're not interested, I wish DirecTV would reclaim this wasted bandwidth & allocate to channels actually broadcasting in HD.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:16 AM

Well, it's now been 9 months and still no one seems to have informed MTV that they've been given an HD channel. Even the season premier of The Hills this week is still being show in 4x3 letterbox.

If they're not interested, I wish DirecTV would reclaim this wasted bandwidth & allocate to channels actually broadcasting in HD.


I agree, though carriage agreements would prevent them from doing so. I've seen channels with very little HD content, but MTV HD and VH1 HD really take teh cake. I have NEVER seen an HD program on their channel. It really makes me wonder why did they bother making an HD simulcast of their channel :nono2:

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:29 AM

If they're not interested, I wish DirecTV would reclaim this wasted bandwidth & allocate to channels actually broadcasting in HD.

DIRECTV should not have invested the bandwidth in the three non-HD channels in the first place.

If you look at the MHD schedule it isn't exactly "fresh". MTV Networks seems to be going backwards instead of forward. The video star is killing itself.

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Posted 20 August 2008 - 10:33 AM

I agree, though carriage agreements would prevent them from doing so. I've seen channels with very little HD content, but MTV HD and VH1 HD really take teh cake. I have NEVER seen an HD program on their channel. It really makes me wonder why did they bother making an HD simulcast of their channel :nono2:


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Posted 24 August 2008 - 12:20 AM

DIRECTV should not have invested the bandwidth in the three non-HD channels in the first place.

It's easy to say that now, but who knows what kind of crap MTV Networks fed DirecTV in order to secure carriage. Of course it's possible that they never said or insinuated anything, but I would think that DirecTV had reason to believe that these channels would be showing HD content at some point well before their first birthday.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 12:54 AM

It's easy to say that now, but who knows what kind of crap MTV Networks fed DirecTV in order to secure carriage. Of course it's possible that they never said or insinuated anything, but I would think that DirecTV had reason to believe that these channels would be showing HD content at some point well before their first birthday.


I think Viacom wanted these channels included in any rights carriage with all their other HD channels, because eventually they will probably have some sort of possible HD that they might want to air at some point on some of these channels in the very distant unknown future...

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 12:57 AM

I think Viacom wanted these channels included in any rights carriage with all their other HD channels

Nobody else has them, though...

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 08:13 AM

The one thing we know for sure is that making VH1 and MTV hi-def channels was contractually, not programming, driven.

Agreed on the totally missed HD opportunities on both.
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 08:25 AM

It's easy to say that now, but who knows what kind of crap MTV Networks fed DirecTV in order to secure carriage. Of course it's possible that they never said or insinuated anything, but I would think that DirecTV had reason to believe that these channels would be showing HD content at some point well before their first birthday.

Given their obvious bent towards reality shows and well-worn movies, I think the writing was on the wall that they weren't heading in the direction of high quality programming. The MTV networks have always been kind of a shoe-string operation with occasional flashes of brilliance that were scarcely enough to keep MHD going.

In looking at the other Viacom properties, the production quality problem is pretty systemic.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 08:38 AM

In looking at the other Viacom properties, the production quality problem is pretty systemic.


And that's the money quote right there... Viacom has shown zero interest in putting out a quality product. How long have we been waiting for Comedy Central in HD?
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:22 AM

How long have we been waiting for Comedy Central in HD?

This begs the question of whether or not higher picture quality is going to make Comedy Central significantly better or just less difficult to watch on an HD display.

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Posted 24 August 2008 - 09:54 AM

This begs the question of whether or not higher picture quality is going to make Comedy Central significantly better or just less difficult to watch on an HD display.

At least (unlike MTV HD)...they'll be some entertaining content in HD... :D
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Posted 24 August 2008 - 01:15 PM

At least (unlike MTV HD)...they'll be some entertaining content in HD... :D

What makes you think that Comedy Central will step up and add HD content where the other MTV SD networks didn't?

Will it be somehow more entertaining in HD?

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Posted 25 August 2008 - 12:01 PM

This begs the question of whether or not higher picture quality is going to make Comedy Central significantly better or just less difficult to watch on an HD display.


What makes you think that Comedy Central will step up and add HD content where the other MTV SD networks didn't?

Will it be somehow more entertaining in HD?


Regardless of the actual content, my point is that Viacom as a whole has shown very little interest providing either an HD signal or actual HD content for any of its properties.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:27 AM

Regardless of the actual content, my point is that Viacom as a whole has shown very little interest providing either an HD signal or actual HD content for any of its properties.


It's as if Viacom doesn't know HD exists.

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:52 AM

Viacom may not have much interest in providing HD content at the moment, however, DirecTv is EXTREMELY interested in providing HD Channels (regardless of avaialble HD content). I would imagine that there was some mutual benfit to both parties in the carriage agreements.

Speaking for myself, it's nice to have the sharper picture on the HD channels even if they don't show actual HD content. So I don't consider it a waste of bandwidth.
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Posted 26 August 2008 - 03:06 PM

Viacom may not have much interest in providing HD content at the moment, however, DirecTv is EXTREMELY interested in providing HD Channels (regardless of avaialble HD content). I would imagine that there was some mutual benfit to both parties in the carriage agreements.

Speaking for myself, it's nice to have the sharper picture on the HD channels even if they don't show actual HD content. So I don't consider it a waste of bandwidth.


But I do consider it getting screwed. Good thing I don't watch those channels.

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:14 PM

But I do consider it getting screwed.

How so? It's not like someone else is seeing MTV in HD while you're not.

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:18 PM

How so? It's not like someone else is seeing MTV in HD while you're not.


Pretty easy to see why he is getting a screwed feeling. "Hi, I am MTV. Here is our HD channel...but we don't have any HD programming." = screwed.

I tend to agree with his viewpoint.

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:22 PM

Pretty easy to see why he is getting a screwed feeling. "Hi, I am MTV. Here is our HD channel...but we don't have any HD programming." = screwed.

I don't know. I'm definitely not one to defend MTV Networks for their BS HD channels, but I honestly just can't see how it equals being screwed.

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:26 PM

I don't know. I'm definitely not one to defend MTV Networks for their BS HD channels, but I honestly just can't see how it equals being screwed.


What if you went to buy a car and when you took delivery of it, there was no engine as promised...your V8 is actually a 3 cylinder engine? Would you feel screwed? They say you will get one, but a year later you are still waiting...

It still works...it's a car, but it's not what it is advertised as being.

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:29 PM

What if you went to buy a car and when you took delivery of it, there was no engine as promised...your V8 is actually a 3 cylinder engine? Would you feel screwed? They say you will get one, but a year later you are still waiting...


NOt the same thing IMHO... More like, this car will get 35 mpg when you use flex fuel...

But then you get home and find out you have to wait a few years before flex is available, so you'll be stuck at 30 mpg, but its till better than the 20 you were getting before...

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:30 PM

What if you went to buy a car and when you took delivery of it, there was no engine as promised...your V8 is actually a 3 cylinder engine? Would you feel screwed? They say you will get one, but a year later you are still waiting...

If I subscribed to DirecTV specifically to get MTV HD, expecting that they would have HD programming, then I might approach that feeling. But MTV "HD" is just one of many HD channels on DirecTV, and so the impact it has on me is significantly dampened.

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Posted 26 August 2008 - 10:31 PM

NOt the same thing IMHO... More like, this car will get 35 mpg when you use flex fuel...

But then you get home and find out you have to wait a few years before flex is available, so you'll be stuck at 30 mpg, but its till better than the 20 you were getting before...



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