0x0290 Feature Discussion: Support for 1080p/24

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  1. Oct 2, 2008 #1 of 171
    Stuart Sweet

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    This is a discussion thread for the 1080p/24 support in the latest national release.

    A little bit about this feature:

    • You must be using HDMI to your TV and it must be capable of displaying 1080p/24
    • Your TV must properly report 1080p support over the HDMI cable
    • If your TV supports 1080p/24, it will appear as an available resolution in System Setup
    • There will be an on-screen test for 1080p the first time you attempt to use 1080p
    • If you are not in Native Mode, there will be a prompt to offer a temporarily switch into Native Mode during a 1080p program's playback session. This will only appear once per 24 hrs.
    • You may now use 1080P as a search term
    • A new Icon in DIRECTV On Demand and on the program's Info screen will indicate 1080p programs.
     
  2. Oct 22, 2008 #2 of 171
    Stuart Sweet

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    Commence discussion!
     
  3. Oct 22, 2008 #3 of 171
    PackFan

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    Discussion continued -

    It doesn't work - DirecTV - please fix.
     
  4. Oct 22, 2008 #4 of 171
    jediphish

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    My pioneer elite 50" plasma (pro1130hd) "accepts" a 1080p/24 signal from a PS3 just fine (both directly and through my hdmi a/v receiver), but displays at 768p/72. This is achieved by forcing 1080p/24 output from the PS3, since it probably doesn't pass the info via handshake. I wish D* would give a "force 1080p/24 output" option like the PS3 does. To cut down on confusion among users, it could be buried in the menu system somewhere or even implementable by hidden "keyword search" terms. If it's an option for PS3 seems like it should be for my HR20-700 as well.

    One might ask "what's the point" with regards to my being able to use the 1080p/24 since my TV only displays 768p? Well, the benefits of 24p (at 3x hz) are plenty of benefit.

    BTW - 1080p is greyed out in my resolutions menu.
     
  5. Oct 22, 2008 #5 of 171
    LarryFlowers

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    It does work, don't monkey with it...

    See now my post offsets your post. It's all in the details and if you are having a problem with it, let us help and provide DirecTV with valuable information by providing your details.

    In my case:

    HR21-700
    HR20-700

    Software version X290
    Television: Samsung LNT4665
    Resolutions Supported: 480p, 720p, 1080i, 1080p/24/30/60
    Connections: HDMI
    Devices(i.e. anything such as a switch or AV Receiver between the HR's and the TV): None

    Provide this information and your post will mean something to the people who fix things. If you want it fixed, be part of the solution.
     
  6. Oct 22, 2008 #6 of 171
    PackFan

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    It does NOT work - both my TV and receiver support the resolution and the DVR tells me that it doesn't.

    HR20-700

    Software version X290
    Television: Pioneer Elite PRO-151FD
    Resolutions Supported: 480i / 480p / 720p / 1080i / 1080p (24/60 Hz) Signals
    Connections: HDMI
    Devices(i.e. anything such as a switch or AV Receiver between the HR's and the TV): Pioneer Elite VSX-03THX (Supports 1080p video transfer, and PS3 1080p/24 is verified to work)

    Please don't blame the receiver or the TV - if the PS3 can do it, the DVR should be able to do it too.
     
  7. Oct 22, 2008 #7 of 171
    oldschoolecw

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    I have a 1080P set and it is not working on it

    Now a question? I’m not networked on my HR20-700 is that why it’s not working in 1080P mode?:confused:
     
  8. Oct 22, 2008 #8 of 171
    rahlquist

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    Did you try the previous suggestion of bypassing the receiver? If you did this and it worked it would mean either a bad cable of the AV receiver is the problem in the chain. Contact Pioneer for firmware update for you AV receiver and TV?

    I've seen this discussion before, and because the PS3(or whatever other device) will force a resolution ignoring the handshake that doesn't mean D* has to do that as well.
     
  9. Oct 22, 2008 #9 of 171
    rahlquist

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    No, network has no affect. Only HDMI and what modes your TV tells the HRx it supports.
     
  10. Oct 22, 2008 #10 of 171
    MrLatte

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    Could it also depend on the quality of your HDMI cable? Not sure if an HDMI 1.3 cable is required or not.
     
  11. Oct 22, 2008 #11 of 171
    PackFan

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    I haven't done it yet because it is a pain to do that on my mounted set. Firmware updates for brand new models, huh? I doubt it...

    If one unit does it and another does not - sorry - the one that doesn't is at fault.
     
  12. Oct 22, 2008 #12 of 171
    oldschoolecw

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    If this is true, then I have everything hooked up properly and it should work for me, but it‘s not.:nono2:
     
  13. Oct 22, 2008 #13 of 171
    bobg

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    I have Samsung 5271 and could not get 1080p to work.
     
  14. Oct 22, 2008 #14 of 171
    RVD26

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    Is your Samsung TV working at 1080p with your receiver?
    I have a similar TV (LNT4661), but won't be able to test it until I get home later today.
     
  15. Oct 22, 2008 #15 of 171
    rahlquist

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    Not if the one that fails to work is following spec and the other is not.

    The PS3 is simply handshaking and saying, hi take this input. (picture a kid holding his hands over his/her ears going NANANANNA I caaant hear youuu)

    The HRx is saying hi, oh, you cant do this mode, fine I wont freak out your TV, damage your tv, turn your screen black with no picture etc. I will only do what you tell me I can do.

    You can think of it in terms of a car with a speed governor set to 65 (almost all new cars have one that limits top speed though its higher than 65).

    If your car key was a PS3 it would allow you to bypass the governor regardless of the outcome. You could redline your engine and blow it up, or the car could simply stop working. Your risk, your choice, it does open Sony up to problems, and calls about issues for misuse.

    If your key was a HRx it sees the governed speed and abides by it. Now if your car is capable of doing a governed speed above 65 the HRx will gladly take you there because it would be operating within the limits dictated by your Car or in our case the TV.

    DirecTV is highly unlikely to implement a feature to circumvent the handshake simply because it could lead to increased support costs.
     
  16. Oct 22, 2008 #16 of 171
    spartanstew

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    No. Any HDMI that passes a signal will work.
     
  17. Oct 22, 2008 #17 of 171
    PackFan

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    Bottom line - it should work - it doesn't.
     
  18. Oct 22, 2008 #18 of 171
    sammib

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    Can someone explain what the 24 means in the term 1080p/24 or direct me to where this info is on this site. Thanks
     
  19. Oct 22, 2008 #19 of 171
    barryb

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    You must also have your DVR connected to the internet as 1080p comes over the internet via Directv On Demand.

    (unless something new came about I am unaware of)
     
  20. Oct 22, 2008 #20 of 171
    krock918316

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    You might check out this thread over at AVSForum about your TV....

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1017082

    The natives over there are restless over needing a firmware update for that TV. Specifically, look at post #4. Users are having difficulties with some "PureCinema" 1080P/24 issues.
     
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