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1 or 4 or 5 oceans

Discussion in 'The OT' started by fluffybear, Aug 20, 2012.

  1. fluffybear

    fluffybear Hall Of Fame DBSTalk Club

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    My daughter came home today with an assignment and was asked to list the Oceans. She had Pacific, Atlantic, Arctic, & Indian down so I asked her where was the Antarctic Ocean and she said that she was told that did not exist so I asked Mrs. Fluffybear and she says that she was taught in school that there was only 1 ocean (I understand the idea behind this). Anyway, I googled this and found a number of articles stating that a group titled the International Hydrographics Organization (IHO) had been debating the Antarctic Ocean existence since the 1950's and finally agreed sometime in the 1990's to call it "Southern Ocean" and formally ratify it as the 5th ocean in 2000.

    So what were you taught in school and/or believe?
     
  2. SayWhat?

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    Dunno.

    We started with one 'X' Million years ago, and according to plate tectonics in another 'X' Million years there will again be only one.

    So go figure.


    Wiki lists 5 by the way. Or 1, depending on how you read it.
     
  3. P Smith

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    Then similar question arise, how many continents ? 4,5,6 or 7 ?
     
  4. dpeters11

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    And is Australia a continent or Oceania? And I refuse to say we only have 8 planets.
     
  5. Carl Spock

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    Oceans 11
     
  6. scooper

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    We have the following oceans -
    Arctic, Atlantic, Pacific, and Indian.
    There are numerous Seas.

    There are the following continents -
    North America, South America, Europe, Africa, Asia, Antartica, And Australia
     
  7. Laxguy

    Laxguy Honi Soit Qui Mal Y Pense.

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    Five oceans then, five oceans now.
    We lost one planet, no biggie.
    Plate tectonics was an emerging theory, now accepted as fact.
    Smoking was iffy; now we know it's fatal.
    Cranberries- never believed they were cancer agents, not even mid sixties.
     
  8. P Smith

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    America (or you think Panama channel is divide it ?), Euroasia (or you think Ural mountains would divide it too ?), Africa, Antartica, And Australia.
     
  9. JACKIEGAGA

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    How many sides does a circle have?









































































    2 the inside and the outside.
     
  10. fluffybear

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    Then would we not have only a single ocean??
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    That's the problem with oceans and continents... it isn't cut and dry like you want it to be in your head.

    Arguably North & South America are one continent just like Europe and Asia are one continent, if you apply the same rules that qualify other continents like Africa... but then we have, for lack of a better phrase, "social continents" that make us want to count Europe and Asia separate because of the cultural differences much like we do North & South America.

    Oceans are even more dicey since by their very definition they must connect to one another... Ponds and puddles are the only things that are discrete really... lakes are localized but are connected eventually back to those same "oceans"...

    It's a weird thing to teach really... and to some extent it is arbitrary and things were named by people who "discovered" them in their travels... whereas if you knew where all the stuff was before you started naming things, we probably wouldn't have multiple ocean names.
     
  12. Laxguy

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    Why ain't we gots no Artica? Is there no land mass underneath it, or is there but it's too small to be a continent? I.e., smaller than Australia, but maybe bigger than NZ??
     
  13. scooper

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    One could make a case for calling Greenland a continent as well.

    I don't think any landmass has been discovered under the Arctic ice sheet besides the already claimed islands.
     
  14. dpeters11

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    It would be a tiny continent. Australia is about 2 million square miles larger. Of course looking at a map based on the Mercator Projection, Greenland looks to be about the same size as Australia. I'm sure Denmark wouldn't mind having their own continent though :)
     
  15. trh

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    Hence the need for the Peter's Projection Map. http://youtu.be/n8zBC2dvERM ;)
     
  16. Stewart Vernon

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    You know... I wonder how many adults still don't realize that many times the flat maps they are looking at exaggerate the size of the land near the poles... I get the impression talking to people sometimes that they do think Greenland is huge.
     
  17. dpeters11

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    Yeah, you've got to alter something to put it on a flat map. I was pretty surprised to see it make a mainstream TV show on West Wing.
     
  18. P Smith

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    I think everyone seen a small Earth globes with right proportions of continents, oceans, countries. Each student in each school used it during educational hours. And at home - my kids have it.
     
  19. RunnerFL

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    When I was a kid in school we had Atlantic, Pacific, Indian, Antarctic and Arctic Oceans. The Antarctic Ocean became the Southern Ocean about 6 years after I got out of High School I think.

    In Junior High we had North America, South America, Africa, Europe, Asia, Antarctica and Australia for continents. By the time I reached High School Europe and Asia had become "Eurasia" so we were down to 6 continents.

    Don't even get me started on what countries have come and gone in that time.

    I'd hate to work at Rand McNally.
     
  20. Laxguy

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    Heh, except I am sure management liked it: the more changes, the better! :lol:
     

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