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1080P VOD

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by HDTVFreak07, Aug 15, 2008.

  1. BubblePuppy

    BubblePuppy Good night dear Smoke... love you & "got your butt

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    Sorry.:(
     
  2. veryoldschool

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    Last post on this Mav, [again sorry Tom]
    Not having "super pooper" plasma, I can't compare, but understand the technology/function. They "have an edge" over LCD.
    Describing my 19 month old TV as "three generations old" doesn't change how it works, and it is simply "impossible" for a plasma [of any type] to be "night and day" different with its off axis viewing at any angle worth watching the screen, UNLESS it was placed in direct sunlight, which mine is not.
    I end up questioning those that make "unrealistic" statements.
     
  3. SteveHas

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    I apologize if this question has been answered here already but...
    where will the 1080p movies be in the VOD section,
    in their own section?
    or rather how will I know which movies are 1080p in the menu?

    I can't seem to recognize any there now
     
  4. Maverickster

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    Nevermind. This is digressing in a way I wasn't intending AT ALL. Any TV placed in direct sunlight (plasma or LCD alike) is going to have trouble being viewed at all -- head on or to the side -- so I'm not sure what the point there is. The only thing I meant by dating our TVs was to imply that they've actually gotten even better since then. That's all. No "super pooper" intended; I mean, geez, my TV doesn't even do 1080p/24! Ha! Again, question what you will, but that's my experience.

    --Mav
     
  5. SteveHas

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    don't want to be nudge, but we get back on topic please?
     
  6. veryoldschool

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    So, have you come in late?
    Channel 1080
     
  7. SteveHas

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    Yes I have

    I tries searching but was unsuccessful

    thanks
     
  8. cartrivision

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    Why on earth would we want to look at plasmas when our LCDs have no drop off problem until we approach extreme of axis angles greater than 120 degrees?

    Give it up. You are wrong. Your statements about LCD TVs are nothing but FUD. If you want to watch TV from 175 degrees off axis, enjoy your plasma, while I and other others enjoy ourLCDs that have no drop off issues from any reasonable viewing angle.
     
  9. Maverickster

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    FUD, huh? Since I owned one and have actually compared them side-by-side in my own living room, that's pretty much impossible. But you are certainly entitled to your opinion (no matter how poor the understanding upon which that opinion is based). Enjoy your TV.

    --Mav
     
  10. Maverickster

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    I don't think it's "up" yet since the 1080p stuff is still in CE. There was some stuff up at 1001 yesterday, but that appears to have since been taken down.

    --Mav
     
  11. jasonblair

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    I'm continually baffled by this. The first time I saw Automotion Plus on the Samsung -71f at the store, I was simply amazed. It's the first time I've actually been wowed since I saw HDTV for the first time 8 years ago. I don't know why, but it seems to eliminate the grain from films, which has been a flaw of the medium since motion pictures were invented in the 1890's. What's not to like?
     
  12. DarinC

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    That makes it sound like it's removing detail. Some people don't like grain, while others prefer to have the system represent the image as closely as possible to the original (grain is often specifically added for effect, such as War of the Worlds). Everyone has their own taste, and should buy what best fits their needs and preferences. But personally, if an electronic system is put in place to address a certain issue (in this case, the lower response time of LCD), and it ends up also taking "something" out of the original picture, that doesn't sound like something I would want.
     
  13. coota

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    Will any of the "Movies Now" be in 1080P?
     
  14. Tom Robertson

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    <Moderator warning>

    No more LCD/Plasma in this thread. They will be deleted henceforth. I don't care if the sidebar is incomplete or not. They will be deleted.

    Thank you,
    Tom
     
  15. Tom Robertson

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    Unknown at this time. I won't be surprised, tho.
     
  16. dcowboy7

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    u also thought favre wouldnt go to another team. :lol:
     
  17. Tom Robertson

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    Graininess is definitely an aspect the [strike]DIRECTV[/strike] director and cinematographer decide during the production. Film can be crystal clear if desired; rarely do they want the picture that clear.

    Cheer,
    Tom

    Edit: Thanks jasonblair for catching my bad...
     
  18. inkahauts

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    What we need to figure out is how much space a 1080P movie is taking up per hour vs. a 1080i movie. If the difference is negligible, then I would expect all movies now to be done in 1080P....

    From my calculations on my unit, it takes up about the same amount of space as 1080i...

    Of course if that is accurate, how long before Directv starts sending all there channels down in 1080P? (as soon as the boxes all have the right firmware maybe? :D)
     
  19. Tom Robertson

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    A 1080p24 will take less space than 1080i30 as there aren't the extra garbage frames added in.

    BTW, does anyone know if progressive frames compress better or the same as interlaced frames? Seems like whole frames make the motion detection and therefor compression better and easier.

    Cheers,
    Tom
     
  20. inkahauts

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    Tom,

    Completely agree, if that's all your looking at... However, from what I've seen of 1080P from Directv, they are also using a much higher bit rate, because there is far better color depth.

    If anyone wonders about the differences in bit rates, just pick up The 5th element in regular cheap form dvd, and then pick up the superbit version... they are both DVD resolutions, but there is one heck of a picture difference.. and that takes more HD space... Which is why Superbit discs only have the movie, and multiple soundtracks, and no commentary and other extras... There's no space for them.

    So that is why I wonder how comparable the size of files differences will be between 1080i and 1080p material from Directv.

    Again, I also still think we will see 1080P broadcasting from Directv soon.... Not just VOD.

    It has been mentioned many times that stations like HBO are mastering all there films in HD MPEG-4... Does anyone know if they are doing it so that it can be easily deliver in 1080i or 1080p?
     

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