18" single satellite

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  1. Skysoldier

    Skysoldier New Member

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    Will an HD receiver get a better picture with 18" antenna than an SD receiver?
     
  2. RAD

    RAD Well-Known Member

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    No, you would need to upgrade to a Slimline dish to receive the HD channels else you'll still just get the SD channels.


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  3. Skysoldier

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    I understand about not getting HD channels. The picture quality on SD with the SD receiver is very poor. I was told by a DirecTV rep at the RV show in Quartzite, AZ that I could get a better SD picture using an HD receiver. He said the picture would be 720p. I was skeptical and do not want to spring for the cost of a HD receiver if his information was false and he only wanted to sell me $200 receiver.
     
  4. texasbrit

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    You can't magically create a real 720p picture from a 480i signal. An HD receiver could upconvert 480i to 720p but if the source is garbage the result will be garbage also.
     
  5. stvcmty

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    [SIZE=medium]Since you were at an RV show, I am going to assume you are asking because you have some sort of self aiming dish for an RV. Do you have an auto aiming dish that can only get one Ku satellite at a time?[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]How big are your TV’s? SD content on a big HDTV will always look fuzzy or blocky. I have a 32” TV connected to a H25 with HDMI. It is hard to tell a difference between the HD and the SD versions of channels. I have a 1080p projector with a 70” screen connected to a HR44 with HDMI. The difference between a SD and HD channel is very obvious.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]With an 18” dish pointed at 101, you will get most but not all of the SD channels. There are some SD channels only on 99 or 103. There are some SD locals only on 119. (Oddly enough, there are some HD Spanish channels on 119).[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]If you have small TV’s with HDMI inputs, getting a H25 will be an improvement (or a H24 if you need non SWM support for the travel dish). If you have large TV’s SD content is going to look bad if it is over composite or over HDMI.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]For self-aiming dishes that work while driving Dish has an advantage by using all Ku band satellites (provided you only want to watch channels from the same satellite at a time). If you are not under contract with DirecTV, it may be worth consulting the manufacturer of your RV dish setup to see if it would work better with Dish.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]For DirecTV, a work around would be to have a SWM Slimline dish on a collapsible base for when you setup to be somewhere for a while, then you could get all the satellites with HD channels when you had time to setup a dish. While you were on the road or if you did not want to setup the dish then you could just use the SD single satellite RV dish you have now.[/SIZE]

    [SIZE=medium]A H25 receiver should only cost $99. A HR24 DVR would cost $199. In both cases, that is for a lease, not to own it.[/SIZE]
     
  6. alnielsen

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    DirecTV only issues HD receivers now. They can display a SD signal if that is what you require.
     
  7. Skysoldier

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    I have a manual roof mounted 18" dish with lcd elevation indicator on our motorhome equipped with a 28" Samsung TV. I guess I will call DirecTV and ask for an HD receiver. I have been a customer since 1994. I have a Genie receiver in our house. Picture quality with our SD receiver is so poor, I would rather have a CRT TV with rabbit ears 100 miles from signal transmitter.
     
  8. slice1900

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    As RAD explained in his reply to you, with the 18" dish you can only pick up the SD channels so changing for the HD receiver will not do anything to improve the quality of your picture. For that you would have to replace that dish with the larger Slimline.
     
  9. west99999

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    What SD channels are on 99 and 103?
     
  10. slice1900

    slice1900 Well-Known Member

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    There are some MPEG4 SD channels, but that's irrelevant since an 18" dish won't receive anything on 99/103.
     
  11. RAD

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    IIRC NASA TV is on a Ka sat in SD.


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  12. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    Be sure to get an H24 or earlier. The H25 will NOT work with that dish (it requires an SWM dish). Unless you also plan to change the dish and get HD.
     
  13. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    H24s appears to have vanished from this planet, I have not seen one in at least a year!
     
  14. codespy

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    My neighbor just dumped DirecTV for TWC last month. DirecTV sent recovery kits for his 3- H24's and his HR24-500. They even made him send back the power cords and remotes. I salvaged his SWM power supply and splitter for future use.
     
  15. stvcmty

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    [SIZE=medium]A SWM8 or SWM16 could be used with an 18” dish pointed at 101, as long as the dish has a two output LNB. The two outputs from the LNB go into the 101 ports on the SWM8/16. Set the H25 to use SWM and set the dish type to 1 Round (18”).[/SIZE]
     
  16. carl6

    carl6 Moderator Staff Member DBSTalk Club

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    Yes, that should work assuming the H25 would permit that type of setting. Because it is SWM only, I don't know if it will allow Type 1, and I don't have an H25 to test with.
     
  17. peds48

    peds48 Genius.

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    even if it's not allowed, setting the H25 for a LNB3 (wether SWM or not) would not make a difference. You can always hide HD channels.


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