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2 "dongles" hanging off the back of DVR

Discussion in 'DIRECTV HD DVR/Receiver Discussion' started by McSwine, Nov 12, 2008.

  1. McSwine

    McSwine Cool Member

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    Can anyone tell me what they are? I have certain channels that have crappy reception and moving these things around can make it better/worse. thanks...
     
  2. David MacLeod

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    these are B Band Converters (BBC's) and if moving them helps call D to order more. they are free and are needed for some HD channels.
    edit: make sure they are tight.
     
  3. Stuart Sweet

    Stuart Sweet The Shadow Knows!

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    We call them B-Band Converters or BBCs, and you need them in order to receive most of the HD channels. If moving them makes things better or worse, they are probably loose or possibly broken. If tightening them doesn't help, I'd call DIRECTV and get them to send you two more. They should be free.

    Edit: ^^^What my friend David said :)
     
  4. David MacLeod

    David MacLeod New Member

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    you owe me a coke :):)
     
  5. McSwine

    McSwine Cool Member

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    Jeez, that was quick...thanks, guys.
     
  6. Doug Brott

    Doug Brott Lifetime Achiever DBSTalk Club

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    Personally, I'd consider tightening the connectors on each end of those dongles to see if the problem gets fixed ..
     
  7. David MacLeod

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    could have sworn I typed that, edited and added it.
     
  8. McSwine

    McSwine Cool Member

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    Well, I tried that with no success, but I might swap out the short piece of coax. I called my installer and he said to bring them by and he would swap them out.

    I appreciate y'alls help.
     
  9. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    What short piece of coax?

    The BBC's should be connected directly to the receiver and then your lines connected directly to the BBC's. So, unless your dish and/or multi-switch is right next to your receiver, you probably don't have a short piece of coax.
     
  10. McSwine

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    The BBC is connected directly to the DVR, but I have a short piece of coax that goes from the other end of the BBC to the jack in the wall (kitchen TV). The Direct installer used the existing wiring from my previous Dish install...could this be part of my crappy picture problem (generally, not the one caused by the dongle)?
     
  11. veryoldschool

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    "The pigtail" and they've been known to be loose where they connect to the BBC.
     
  12. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    Gotcha. By short, I thought you meant a few inches. If you can move the dongles and the picture changes, it would lead me to believe that there's a connection problem. If all the connections are secured (BBC to receiver. BBC to coax. Coax to wall plate), then there's probably something wrong with the BBC (s). Assuming your wiring worked fine with Dish, I wouldn't think that would be an issue.
     
  13. veryoldschool

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    Any part of the cabling "could be" the problem. Bad/loose cables can act very strange.
     
  14. spartanstew

    spartanstew Dry as a bone

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    I haven't looked at my BBC's in awhile, I though those pigtails were permanently attached.
     
  15. veryoldschool

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    "should be" but many [bad ones] have been able to rotate at the BBC connector. There is a set screw that some have tightened "to fix them".
     
  16. McSwine

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    It worked fine w/Dish, and that's why I assumed that the Direct picture quality would as good, if not better (it's not). I could kick my a** because the Direct installer wanted to run new wiring, but for whatever reason I was in a hurry and told him it would be fine to use the existing Dish cabling. I knew that I would give up the ability to watch one program and record another, but with 3 DVR's in the house, I didn't think it would be a problem. I wonder if it would have made any difference?

    At any rate, thanks again for your help.
     
  17. rudeney

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    Bad cabling or BBC's can cause pixelization, "green snow", drop-outs, and 771-SFSS errors. When you are getting a good signal, though,k your picture quality "is what it is" and won't be improved with better cabling.
     
  18. veryoldschool

    veryoldschool Lifetime Achiever Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    That's not what Monster keeps telling everybody! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
     
  19. RobertE

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    Nope, its just a short piece of coax.

    You can pop open the plastic case to get the the "nut" on the connector.
     
  20. bpratt

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    The new 5 LNB dish requires an RG6 cable and all components rated at least 2.5 Ghz. RG6 cable older than 3 or 4 years is probably only tested to 1.0 Ghz. I had problems initially with my new installation using the cable from my 3 LNB dish because the RG6 cable was only rated at 1.0 Ghz. I replaced it with a cable rated at 3.0 Ghz and the problems went away.

    See the following installation videos (specifically video 4) for further info:

    http://www.solidsignal.com/satellite/at9_install_videos.asp
     

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