2014 NFL Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Sports Programming and Events' started by JACKIEGAGA, Aug 17, 2014.

  1. boukengreen

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    i was talking about the week 17 game because the last 3 years that game has decided who won the NFC East
     
  2. Stewart Vernon

    Stewart Vernon Roving Reporter Staff Member Super Moderator DBSTalk Club

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    I wondered later if that might be what you meant... Dallas has just been this weird experiment in mediocrity for years now. You hate when your team sucks, but usually sucking is followed by some improvement eventually... that "worst to first" thing happens in several divisions... but somehow throughout it all, Dallas manages to stay just good enough to not be crappy and just crappy enough not to be good. It's actually kind of amazing to stay that mediocre.
     
  3. JACKIEGAGA

    JACKIEGAGA N.Y. FOOTBALL GIANTS

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    The whole GIANT team is broken now.
     
  4. vikefan

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    Zimmer is the real deal!
     
  5. yosoyellobo

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    Are we allow to discuss Rodger Goodell press conference?
     
  6. JACKIEGAGA

    JACKIEGAGA N.Y. FOOTBALL GIANTS

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    What I got from the press conference is Roger Goodell speaks in riddles
     
  7. JACKIEGAGA

    JACKIEGAGA N.Y. FOOTBALL GIANTS

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    Sure
     
  8. yosoyellobo

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    Domestic violence is a big problem in our country not just in the NFL. It would be great if the NFL got it right but it has to be address in a national level. Advertisers like Budweiser might condemn what is happening in the league but most of the cases of domestic abuse I have seen in my lifetime have had alcohol as a contribuing factor.
     
  9. djlong

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    That was the irony that Jon Stewart pointed out a couple of nights ago. The company who is the major manufacturer of what it perhaps the biggest contributor to domestic violence is telling the NFL "Uh, hey, you've got a problem..."
     
  10. Stewart Vernon

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    As long as we stay civil and don't attack each other (which would be ironic given the sub-topic) I think the current events of the NFL are ok to talk about here. Just keep it civil.
     
  11. Stewart Vernon

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    As for my opinion... it's nuanced, so I hope the message comes clear.

    I abhor domestic violence, spousal/child abuse, and any other euphemism you want to use. I wouldn't want to associate or be friends with a person who does such things repeatedly, especially one who does such things while sober and in control reasonably of his faculties.

    Having said that, I get to a grey area when it comes to "you should lose your job" over this stuff. If it doesn't happen in the workplace and doesn't happen to another employee of the workplace... my general stance is that companies should stay out of it, with a minor exception. I can see where you are facing criminal charges and your employer might put you on paid leave while the courts sort things out. That makes sense from a "taking care of employees" and "taking care of the company" perspective... send you away while you deal with the case in court. If you are convicted, a company is generally within its rights to fire you and you might be in jail anyway.

    Now... there is the court of public opinion... so IF I don't like a spouse/child abuser... I might decide the NFL isn't a sport for me to watch anymore... and maybe a lot of people do that... so the NFL might think it needs to address that by cutting ties. To me, this gives them the right to put in place policies and restrictions and people who work for the NFL sign contracts to some moral clauses of "being a good citizen"... I point to things like it is legal to drink alcohol and even to be drunk, but most employers have policy against coming to work drunk... and that's a minor thing.

    So... if the NFL wants to make policy and consistently distance itself from abusers... that seems legal to me... and I would be fine with it... and it would probably help keep me a viewer if I was inclined to tune them out over a scandal with a player.

    But what I don't like... is how it seems right now... that it isn't the NFL being against spouse/child abuse... but that it only cares about losing revenue... so IF the public left them alone, we wouldn't be seeing talk of new policies against something that should be obviously wrong. I lose respect for the NFL over how it seems the crimes allegedly (and actually in several cases) are not as despicable to them as is the potential for lost customers... The NFL, to me, seems to be responding to public outrage rather than being outraged themselves... so I find much of their policy to be lackluster and accidentally positive going forward.
     
  12. MysteryMan

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    Good third week. Giants have settled down and got their first win. Great Eagles/Redskins game. My hat's off to Quarterback Nick Foles for hanging in there after taking all those hits. Shame about Terry Bradshaw's son-in-law.
     
  13. JACKIEGAGA

    JACKIEGAGA N.Y. FOOTBALL GIANTS

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    9:30 am football game Lions Falcons. I'm going to feel like I'm on the west coast.
     
  14. joed32

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    And people on the west coast are going to feel like they're in Hawaii.
     

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