Dish should consider veteran subs as well as new. I get that they want new subs, hence the discount, and at one time we were all "new". Wouldn't it make more sense to offer a loyal customer in good standing a discount to commit to 2 years? [ again] That would at least give Dish a locked in sub. If you like movies, I suppose the way to go is drop to the lowest package and stream Netflix and Amazon. Greed and lousy programming will be the decline of major carriers, I think. Thing is, Dish isn't responsible for the lousy programming, but continues to raise prices. Yeah I know, the programmers want more. So, back to the old complaint of letting subs opt out of ESPN. That's what, $8 per month you could knock off the bill. Everyone likes choices. Problem is they are getting scarce. I still prefer Dish to the other two choices, however. Most [ yes, I have played csr roulette] CSR's are great. Much better than Dir*** or cable.