2017 MLB Extra Innings

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  1. cmasia

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    The oddities of blackouts continue...

    Thursday, July 27.

    The A's, one of my 6 - yes, 6 - home teams here in Vegas, are playing a day game in Toronto.
    NBCS California is not televising today, and not surprisingly, the Jays feed on 725 is blacked out.

    MLBN, this afternoon, is offering the Brewers - Nats on 213, and A's - Jays on 213-1.

    213 is blacked out, and 213-1 is in the clear.

    Go figure.
     
  2. KyL416

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    The A's - Jays game is flagged as being available in market for A's territory on MLB Network's schedule:
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    They sometimes do that for games that the local RSN doesn't air at all. The games on August 9th, 16th and 23rd also have the asterisk for A's territory
     
  3. cmasia

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    Hi, KyL.

    No surprise you have the answer! I appreciate it.
    It was a nice surprise to catch today's game.

    Is this "consideration" something each individual team or rights holder can authorize?

    Hope all is well.
    cmasia
     
  4. schmave1

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    Reynoldsburg...
    I think it's a league-wide thing as far as the EI and MLB.TV blackouts. If MLB Network shows a game and one of the participating teams is not televising, then that MLBN telecast is cleared in the non-televising team's market (i.e. like your situation, back on July 17, Nationals-Reds aired here in Ohio on MLBN but the actual MASN broadcast was still blacked out on 640).
    I don't think it would be that hard for MLB to clear those kinds of broadcasts on the Extra Innings and MLB.TV platforms. All it would take is looking at each team's broadcast schedule and making some technical adjustments. But given how stubborn they are on blackouts, I don't see MLB making that kind of move.
     
  5. Aug 6, 2017 #185 of 206
    Steady Teddy

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    Why is Game #2 of Mariners-Royals blacked out today on EI?
     
  6. Aug 6, 2017 #186 of 206
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    Was it a double header for a rain out or something? Is it interfering with a normally blackout period for just an espn game?
     
  7. Aug 6, 2017 #187 of 206
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    I thought it was on my end, sounds like it wasn't. Not sure why it was blacked out, I was able to watch on MLB At-Bat.
     
  8. Aug 7, 2017 #188 of 206
    Steady Teddy

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    Yes it was a makeup doubleheader. The ESPN blackout policy makes sense. I try to avoid the streaming MLB.TV services if possible because of Commiecast's data caps.
     
  9. Aug 7, 2017 #189 of 206
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    Reynoldsburg...
    The funny thing with that was at least at 6:30, Game 2 was in the clear on the MLB Mix channel with the channel # listed although both RSNs were blacked out.
    I get why ESPN wants the blackout after 5, although usually it's a non-issue because there are no games starting at that time (I do, however, remember a Cubs-Braves game a few years ago that started at 5:10 ET and was in the clear on CSN Chicago and EI). I am just glad MLB.TV clears the games when they do happen.
     
  10. cmasia

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    I started to think about switching to Cox Cable here as in Vegas, as I already have their very good internet service.
    As discussed a million times Vegas is claimed by 6 MLB teams, Dodgers, Angels, Padres, Diamondbacks, Giants, and A's. Teams between 265 and 568 miles from my house!

    Anyway, I found Cox carries FS West, FS San Diego for Angels and Padres games, and a spillover channel for FS Arizona's live Diamondback broadcasts.

    But they do not carry NBCS Bay Area or NBCS California, so their MLB Extra Innings package would black out the Giants and A's games, as well as the Dodgers.

    I'm such a baseball fan, and there are so few west coast games starting at 7:00 Pacific time to start with, that alone was reason enough to forget about switching.
     
  11. schmave1

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    Reynoldsburg...
    As long as DirecTV doesn't start blacking out any of your in-market teams, as they do around here (central Ohio) with the Pirates and do with some other teams across the country, I agree you should stay right where you are. That definitely gets you - and people like you in Vegas and in the other blackout hole known as Iowa (if no arbitrary in-market blackouts are in place there) - around the six-team mess.
     
  12. Sep 5, 2017 #192 of 206
    cmasia

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    A minor nitpick...

    Like previous seasons, we will not have access to the MLB Mix channel on NFL Sundays, starting September 10.
    Hard to believe they don't have enough space to leave that up.

    Oh, and it probably also means EI will only have RSN remaps those days.
    No Phillies, Blue Jays, WPIX, WOR, WGN, etc., etc...
     
  13. Sep 5, 2017 #193 of 206
    KyL416

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    The MLB Game Mix and the Main Sunday Ticket Game Mix use the same transponder slot. They can't have both up at the same time.

    702 the secondary NFL Game Mix itself uses the bandwidth from two other HD Cinema Channels, CINEHD 142 and 143. While after the MLB season ends, MLB Game Mix gets repurposed as CINEHD 139 and CINEHD 169, which get taken offline on Sundays for the main NFL Game Mix on 701.

    And nope, they don't have room to put the secondary NFL game mix somewhere else, unless you want to lose out on even more feeds. Mix channels take up significantly more bandwidth since not only do they have the video element, they have an interactive data stream and up to 8 audio feeds at about 384 Kbps each. Which also means they only use transponders with 5 HD channels instead of 6.
    (139 CINEHD) -> 701 NFL Game Mix
    140 CINEHD -> 718 NFL Game 14
    142 CINEHD -> 702 Game Mix
    143 CINEHD -> 702 Game Mix
    147 CINEHD -> 717 NFL Game 13
    148 CINEHD -> 716 NFL Game 12
    149 CINEHD -> 715 NFL Game 11
    150 CINEHD -> 714 NFL Game 10
    151 CINEHD -> 713 NFL Game 9
    152 CINEHD -> 712 NFL Game 8
    153 CINEHD -> 711 NFL Game 7
    154 CINEHD -> 710 NFL Game 6
    155 CINEHD -> 709 NFL Game 5
    156 CINEHD -> 708 NFL Game 4
    157 CINEHD -> 707 NFL Game 3
    159 CINEHD -> 704 Fantasy Zone
    160 CINEHD -> 703 Red Zone
    164 CINEHD -> 706 NFL Game 2
    165 CINEHD -> 705 NFL Game 1
    166 CINEHD -> 719 NFL Game 15
    (169 CINEHD) -> 701 NFL Game Mix

    That just leaves CINEHD 168, CINEHD 163, CINEHD 162, CINEHD 161, CINEHD 158, CINEHD 145, CINEHD 141 and CINEHD 136 left on weeks where they need all 19 Sunday Ticket channels. Which they need to reserve for things like FS Kansas City, FS Cincinatti, CSN Chicago Plus, MASN2, and other alternates like FS Indiana (which carries Reds with local Indiana advertising), and the FS Tennesee/FS Southeast alternate which carries the Cardinals with local ads. As well as other potential overlap for MLS games and other things like any potential game where they need a feed that isn't an RSN remap like if the Phillies, Blue Jays or Dodgers are facing eachother or are facing another team playing on a OTA channel.
    On less busy Sundays they will have more room to spare.
     
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  14. Sep 5, 2017 #194 of 206
    schmave1

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    Reynoldsburg...
    Great and through explanation above from KyL. I will say, though, in addition that the Jays feeds have been hit or miss at best this year on light nights, let alone busy days. It's nice to have dual feeds for all games, but it's understandable why that doesn't happen. The Mix channel, I can live without for four Sundays at the end of the season.
     
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    cmasia

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    To KyL: I'm almost embarrassed to post questions - or nitpicks - like the one above, because I know you'll end up taking time from your day to give a thorough response to idiots like me.
    Thanks so much for this - and all your other - posts that help us understand stuff!

    To Schmave1: Not having The Mix is a small nitpick, but its value on NFL Sundays would be even greater when surfing between football and baseball.

    To all: Occasionally here, I'll read a post from someone questioning KyL's information and/or sources.
    Please stop.
    The last thing this board needs is KyL's departure!
     
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    KyL416

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    Just a warning, I'm not sure how busy this Sunday or Saturday is, but it looks like we're going to get the Severe Weather Channel again for Irma. Between Sunday Ticket, ESPN College Extra, ESPN Goal Line, the BTN/SEC Alternates, and those games on the RSN Plus channels they might need to drop an Extra Innings feed with little notice.

    Although NBCU literally taking their ball and going home with the bonus EPL coverage did lessen the blow this year for early games, it also helps that FS Oklahoma and FS Wisconsin are now 24/7 so they don't take up part time slots anymore.
     
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    I am confused with what this package is doing with the Cubs feeds. On Sunday the Cub broadcast against the Brewers was not shown on Directv. Now today, I notice that Wednesday's Cub Mets game will only be showing the Mets feed. The game is on WGN. All season there has been no problem with WGN telecasts being shown on the Extra Innings Package. So does anyone know what the problem is?
     
  18. KyL416

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    As mentioned a few posts ago, Sunday Ticket takes up a lot of the part time feeds, so on Sundays the OTA only games get bumped if they need the remaining space for RSN Alternate feeds like FS Kansas City, MASN2 and others. RSN alternates always get priority over bonus OTA feeds.

    As for tommorow, it's probably just an error in the guide data since the Mets Broadcast listing appears twice on both 736 and 737
     
  19. schmave1

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    Unfortunately it's the feed for the affiliates with the repetitive, depressing PSAs, but that's better than no WGN feed for sure. Definitely thankful DirecTV has included WGN (and WLS) feeds ever since the superstation dropped all its Chicago programming.
     
  20. Rob37

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    Wednesday September 13, 2017 New York Mets @ Chicago Cubs Channel 737 will have the WGN Cubs Broadcast.
     

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