211 HD quality if poor

Hi
I upgraded from a Dish 311 to VIP211 and upgraded the wiring and dish to HD. I did not have a an HD TV at the time but now do.
I am very disappointed in the quality of HD Tv,

I have made sure the box was set to 1080i, I have tried both HDMI cable and component and see similar defects.
I am set to HD stations not SD. I have tested Bluray and the TVs display sharp images.
I have tried 4 different brands of 32" 1080p and 720p TVs
Quantum, Sceptre, Vizio,RCA


All that say 1080i look blury, or pixelated close up faces look blochy.graphicy
I am disappointed in what they call HD.
Is this the the best Dish gets? I understand different channels broadcast different qualities but I do not know how any one can say this is HD quality.
I also see interlace lines on various feeds and commercials that appear if something moves.

If you knwo how to fix this or what to have Dish do about it, let me know. I wil tell you I thnk my images looked shaper on my old 480 tv.
Any help is appreciated

 

Yes all 3 TVs are on Normal
So Dish installer was here today and he brought a 211K where as the other s are 211s, I notice a SMALL increase in clarity.

But by now means do I feel Dish HD is clear ,sharp and superior to SD. Colors pop more , graphics and non moving images are fine but I see a blur to faces and then whe it comes to smaller faces say in a show like THE VIEW, the faces can be pixelated or blotchy.

As I said, the 211K is a little better so having Dish swap the 211s which I only had running 1 month. The tech went into the menu and said my signal is great .
He even added stuff the other installer did not. He changed the barrels in the wall connections to the Hi frequency ones put a ground block in. Not that it improved quality.

I do not know what the quality should be from Dish, Maybe I should never have thought it would be sharp like blu ray but I thought it would have to be better than this. The further away you are I think it is only an illusion of qualit due to the brighter colors, and higher contrast Stand 3 feat and if you ask me my laptop looks clearer.

It would be one thing if it was the pixelation but another to have that and a slight blur to the image. I wish I had someone else with DISH HD so I could go and see if theirs is the same or not. Then I might know if there is something still wrong with the install or if that is the best it can get.

 

Thanks for the suggestions.
These are 32" Tvs so one/
The 480 to 1080 technique did not change anything but worth a try.

Yes I tried the HDMI in all the ports to be sure it was not a HDMI issue and even component.
The tech did say my signal is very good.
He could see what I was saying but it seemed to bother him less than me.

Yes I am looking at the tv within 2 feet and can see it.
Maybe some can exlain WHY it would not look sharp up close?

So then HD is an illusion only obtained by high contrast, bright colors and distance? But then why does a blu ray look better than the Dish service at the same distance?

And why would the tech, who was standing a l couple feet back from me, say he saw it but that there was nothing he could suggest?

 

Hi
I should have pointed out even at 4-6 feet I can see defects. That is why stood closer to determine what I was seeing.

I just do not know how to describe it and not sure why the tech did not think there was anything to do about it.

I also wonder if the 211 211K does worse than 722? If so why?

Is it possible that the new TVs I picked up just are not high enough quality in how they filter and process?

What channel is known to have the best quality that I can check if it is just hte broadcasts. I see the issue very evident on all moring stations 2-13
But even CNN has a slight blur and some pixelation during movement.

It has been very hard to tell what the quality of my service/hook up is without knowing what each station and each commerical is really broadcasting at.
And no matter if you have a 720p TV, if you hit the info button it will say 1080i
Some are saying thier signal is SHARP near blue ray. I am saying that day time tv like Doctor OZ, the morning shows and night time news are probably the worst viewing.

I think some are fooled since if you get a graphic up it has a sharpter look but look at the faces and movement and I see all sorts of problems and a blur that was not there on the old 480p tv even when flipping between SD HD which had no change except format.
So I am not seeing why I upgraded to HD if this is as good as it gets

BTW I should point out I am on the Easter Arc so wonder if other areas could be a reason and would be good to hear from Easter Arc folks in North NJ.

 

Thanks for the input.
I turned off all noise and mpeg noise reduction and played with itand did not really see any difference when on or off on all the TVs.
This is frustrating. Would photos, if I cna get them help?

 

This is frustrating. Dish should not list it as an HD station if it is not HD quality. PERIOD! All the morining talk shows are low quality. During wide shots you can really see it. close up maybe 10 feet bac you think it is sharp but move in a little and see it is blurry. I do a little photography so know what is in focus and what is not.

I do not feel it is acceptable to say not to compare day time network TV since that is then wasting half my subscription for crap that looks much better in 480 on a 480 tv. Why did I bother upgrading?

Is it the quality of the TVs? Well if I only had ONE TV that is one thing but to see it on ALL 4 tvs tried, one has to wonder.

The fact it IS on network news and CNN as well. The wider the shot the more degraded the faces. So much for HD quality.

Over the weekend I thought the quality magicially improved. Now download a calibration Blu ray (think it was AVS) so thought that helped. I did the remaining 3 TVs I am testing.
Even CBS Sunday morning had a better quality so thought maybe Dish flipped a switch or the calibration helped hide the errors
. But come Monday, the morning shows all suffer in quality. Oh graphics overlayed looked sharp and maybe why some are being tricked to think the image is sharp. But look at the faces please or the motions.

Now I understand that the Sceptre and the Quantum are lower quality but they had hundreds of positive reviews.
is RCA and Vizio considered low end? The RCA does do a tad better but the defects are still there. Someone mentioned LG but not the model and assume not all LG are made equal, right?

The Vizio was a 720p LED E series and $100 more and it had the same problems as well as terrible viewing angles.

If you have recommendations on what I can find at Walmart in up to a 42" to try . so I can return it. (my walmart has to open every box anyway and send it back to the manufacturer , even if you did not open it and had all seals, since someone returned rocks last year. So I have no issue TESTING a TV) 32" is what I need to fit in my cabinet .

I really did not think I needed 120 hz to watch the Today show but it seems some are thinking that is what is needed.

Thanks for the continued help.

 

Oh as for the photos I tried a few ways but the digital camera picks up the screen information for lack of a better way to describe it. Either lines or boxes. do not know if you call that a filter but there is some overlay that wil show up when the camera shoots the screen, even with the image frozen with the freeze button.

So I do not know how to shoot an LCD screen to show you as the eye sees it.
Any advice on that is appreciated.

I have two 211k coming they say today to swap for the 211. The one I had I had to give to my tenant to use so was not using that.

It would be very disappointing to find that all the network shows are going to suffer. Didnt Dish used to provide a non local feed for shows on a higher channel number? I cant not find them if there are there and different. If they are just copies of the local feeds than are you saying NY feeds are garbage during the day and evening news?

Any Northern NJ folks out there willing to let me see your feed or test a TV?