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$299 just to get the equipment.....

Discussion in 'DISH™ High Definition Discussion' started by JasonMonette, May 26, 2006.

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  1. Chandu

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    This is an incredulous story. It's probably the first time I've ever heard of anyone getting 622 without paying the upgrade fee (existing or new customer). Are you sure you weren't charged maybe a seperate credit card charge of $299 for the receiver?
     
  2. olgeezer

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    The DVR service was waived, because you have the platinum service.:D
     
  3. nazz

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    As of today no such charge has hit my card. I was never informed of such a charge so I would consider it unauthorized if they did that. I wonder if my local guy screwed up. If he's a retailer would they try to charge him the $299?
     
  4. ocanyc

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    I have TWCNYC cable HD and thinking of going to Dish. I dont care about their HD Dvr so much but are you saying I would have to pay for the receiver? I'm thinking of getting the Dish Latino Platinum HD package, does that mean that they'll waive the DVR monthly fee? I'm confused, could someone be as nice as to tell me what I would have to pay upfront and what my monthly fees would be? Thanks a milllion.
     
  5. UTFAN

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    "I want HD..."

    DISH has it, knows you want it and charges accordingly.
     
  6. pk325

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    I received a cold call offer for a no charge upgrade from my 942. I will be charged $199 and receive a $199 refund when they get my 942 back. It includes install and any additional antennae necessary. I accepted the offer, but had to take another call before finalizing. It took 2 more calls and then only a supervisor/specialist could complete the transaction, but it's all set up, just waiting for the new box. I was surfing this thread to see if anyone else got the offer, apparently not...
     
  7. harsh

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    There appears to be some new program coming down the pipe. I've heard grumbling about an upcoming deal whereby the dealers are going to be happier.

    I can see where they might be willing to shake the $99 upgrade fee now that the ViP622 is gaining momentum.
     
  8. bighifi

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    The Price of the 622 Will not drop very much. They will keep the fee high until they release a new box, then the fee for the new equipment will be high. The thing I don't like about the "upgrade fee" is this. If they releaese a new box, then chances are you will not get it without paying another high fee. If you don't think so just ask the people who purchased the 9XX series about 6 months ago. They still have to pay an "upgrade fee" and recooup a discount far short of the original cost of the box. I know alot of people hate cable, but the gap between dish pricing and cable pricing is not that large any more, less than 20 bucks in some areas. I know, I know you get more HD chanels with dish, so that is something to consider. I do know that when a new cable box comes out though I don't have to pay an upgrade fee I just go pick one up. Also I don't have a contract with my cable company, I can quite any time. Dish needs to follow suit with the cell companies. They don't develope equipment for free either, but you can usually get phones free with commitment all of the time. They make money on the stupid fees they charge. I know some people pay a small fee for bleeding edge but, wait about 3 months and you will see them free after rebated somewhere. OK my rant is over:)
     
  9. Jim5506

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    Satellite providers have a slightly different business model than do cable TV providers.

    Every successful business has to have a plan as to how to market and get revenue for their product.

    It looks like both Dish and Direct are doing OK in their niche and cable cos are doing OK in theirs.

    Satellite and cable are competitors, but not really direct competitors because of the differences in who they serve, not necessarily their product.

    As has been pointed out in earlier posts, both cable and satellite must somehow recover the cost of equipment.

    Satellite might better be compared to cellular phone service, at least as far as equipment is concerned. Some cellphones are "free" with a committed subscription, while other phones with more bells and whistles cost hundreds of dollars. So, if you want four rooms of SD service you can get your equipment free with a committment, but if you want an HD DVR there is money required up front, whether you lease or buy. The analogy is not perfect but closer than the cable comparison. IMHO
     
  10. grooves12

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    A) Well, that may be true about cable's equipment, but almost all cable companies charge a significant extra monthly leasing fee for the HD DVR's. Usually about $10, plus like you said it is generally about $20 more per month for comparable programming with cable. Add that up and that is $30/mo... so in 10 months you have already paid the same as the upgrade fee with dish, and then it gets more and more expensive as time goes on. Plus, Dish's equipment is siginificantly better than what I have seen of most cable offerings.

    B) I don't have a contract with Dish, their new leasing model makes it so that a contract is not necessary.

    C) When it comes to the phone companies, NONE of them offer the bleeding edge of phones for free with contract. You can get A free phone, but they are generally extremely basic outdated phones. If you want the latest you will need a commitment AND pay several hundred dollars. So, Dish Network IS following their model. If you want a free receiver Dish offers the basic non-dvr model... and then has several options you can pay an upfront fee to get if you want to have the latest features.
     
  11. harsh

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    I tried upgrading my Comcast digital box once and they demanded that I pay for a "Professional Installation". This meant someone was going to drive it out to my house and hand it to me for a substantial fee. I still haven't convinced them that I need a new modem.

    Don't be fooled; cable has their methods of separating you from your money that are much less obvious.

    So, do you really think $240/year is no biggie? Seems to me that it darn near covers the cost of a ViP622.
     
  12. N6ND

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    I also got a cold call from E* with the same offer which I accepted. Installation is scheduled for June 12. The price is definately right on this offer!!
     
  13. motts

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    Does Microsoft require you to pay a mothly rental fee for their Xbox after you bought it? And, do they also require you to turn it in when you are done with it? I am sure they recover their costs too but they dont demand the Xbox back nor do they ask you to pay a rental fee. As we all know the new PS3 will be much cheaper to buy than what it costs to make. Should Sony apply the same tactics to their PS3 as Dish does to their 622?
     
  14. Stewart Vernon

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    What are you talking about?

    If you buy a ViP622 from Dish they will never ask for it back if you cancel service.

    There is no, as far as I know, current lease model for XBox or PS3 that you could accurately compare to.

    There are, however, video game rental places that also rent the consoles... and if you pay to rent the system enough times you could end up paying more than if you bought it... but you still wouldn't own it... and a lot of people do just that!
     
  15. motts

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    Clearly you did not understand my point. Or the wording was bad, as I should not have said "bought" the XBOX. I am saying that if you pay 300 bucks for an XBOX there is no need to return it or pay a rental fee. Sure you can buy the reciever but thats not the point as I am comparing the fact that you have to pay upfront 300 bucks and then rent. I am sure stores rent the consoles but you can't tell me they require a huge fee like that upfront. In addition, you could wind up paying more in the end if you rent the console, but that happens over a period of time. If they let me rent the receiver with no upfront cost I am sure I would eventually meet its actual price at some point also. That is the argument here. If I am going to have to pay a rental fee, please don't charge me that upfront cost as well. Its also the fact that you have to return it at the end that bugs me. We are not leasing a car here.
     
  16. ocanyc

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    I agree with you 100%, unless of course they are indeed letting you keep it which they're not, then its not worth it. I'll wait for the better deal, so until then I'll be ok with the 211.
     
  17. Stewart Vernon

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    But you can buy a ViP622 for $499 or less now if you want to own one. You are comparing their lease-offer with a purchase-offer of another product. The only real comparison would be to compare leasing an XBox (don't know how much that runs these days) with leasing a Dish receiver.

    I suspect that in order to rent/lease an X-Box there is either a deposit required OR at least a credit card on file in case you damage or fail to return it so they can charge... and then I would imagine there is some per-night charge OR perhaps a 5-7 day flat rental fee or something. I don't really know, so I hesitate to really compare.
     
  18. whatchel1

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    Formerly I was an assitant manager for Blockbuster. To rent a game machine There had to be a credit card on file with the knowledge that if it was not returned by the date due then 7 days later the card would be charged $200. And yes the cards were checked in advance that they worked by renting the machine on that card.
     
  19. Stewart Vernon

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    Do you remember what the rental fee was for that 7 day period? Just for comparison sake.

    I have no clue since I've not tried to rent a video game unit... but my gut says it could be in the $25-$50 range for that kind of time period.
     
  20. whatchel1

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    I don't remember the rental fee for the units. The Deposit I remember cuz of the price of 200 but the actual rental fee I can't remember. It was tied in with rent the machine and get 3 games. The reason for remembering the deposit is so many griped about what if I just forget and don't bring it back in time that means we are gonna get charged too much. People would say for that kinda of money we could almost buy one. Well why did they think it was set at that price.
     
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