2TB - where and what to get

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  1. Rich

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    Every eSATA that I've had filled up started bogging down at about the 30% Available mark. A simple menu restart will usually cure that. The biggest eSATA I have is a 2TB and it runs well. The rest of my large drives are all 1.5TBs and the same is true of them. I don't know what the maximum is, unless somebody puts two 2TBs or two 1.5s in a RAID enclosure we won't know. But you can rest easy with a 2TB or a 1.5TB. Cheapest way to go with either is to buy a bare drive and put it into an Antec MX-1. The Antec apparently works with every HR.

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  2. P Smith

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    I would add - BlacX device is good also. Especially for disk's library.
     
  3. Tom Robertson

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    The HR2x family is still limited to 2TB.

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  4. Rich

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    I know. But the first 2TB eSATA I filled up seemed to be willing to go further. Obviously couldn't, but made me wonder what would happen with a 3TB drive. Remember when everyone thought every eSATA would work with every HR? I emailed Earl when I purchased a My Book eSATA and it wouldn't work with my 20-700s. His reply was, well, he was surprised. I think he said something like: If it's an eSATA, it's an eSATA and should work (that's a paraphrase, been a long time and I've erased my PMs several time since I PM'd him). The way my 2TB acted, I got the impression that it could go farther. Just an opinion, but I was surprised at how easily it reached full capacity and started dropping unsaved programs and it just seemed as if it would go farther. Has anybody actually tried to go beyond 2TBs?

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  5. P Smith

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    There was a thread about 3.75 (?) TB storage size with the HR ...
     
  6. Rich

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    Never saw that. How would you do that? Not with a dual drive RAID enclosure and nobody has a drive larger than 2TB.

    Could you elucidate and educate us?

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  7. Steve Rhodes

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    Right now we've got a 1TB drive and a 750GB drive on two different HR20s. Both are running 90-95% full ALL of the time, and we've never noticed any slow down related to fullness ever.

    We recently got a third unit, and we were only offered an HR22 by the installer. The bare bones unit is much less responsive to commands, even at 0% full than is my HR20. Still we'll be putting a big external drive on it too.
     
  8. Richierich

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    I've had less than 5% available capacity on my HR21-700 with a 1 TB Drive in it and I have experienced no slowdown. I think that it is related more to eSATA Drives than Internal Drives.
     
  9. Rich

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    You'd see it in the slowness of the guide and the changing of windows such as the Playlist, where scrolling up and down would be slower. You wouldn't see any change in the recording or playback of programs. Or in any commands such as FF or the slip/skip commands. In other words, viewing and manipulating a program wouldn't be affected.

    Perhaps "bogs down the HR" is too broad a term. Only certain features "bog down".

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  10. Rich

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    I can't really say for sure that I've seen it in internal drives. I don't feel like searching back that far, but I think I had a similar experience with an internal drive in a 21-700. That internal was the one it came with and I know I filled it up deliberately, but I'm not 100% sure what the outcome was.

    It's really obvious in the eSATAs. I expected my 2TB eSATA to put a load on the 20-700 and it did, right below the 30% Available mark. But when I tested a 750 Cavalry and a 750 FAP, they both did the same thing, slowed down at around 30%. Same thing with 2 Seagate Xtreme 1.5s on two 20-700s. Same thing with 2 Seagate Barracuda 1TBs in Antec MX-1 enclosures on two 21-700s.

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  11. Richierich

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    I think it has something to do with the way that the eSATA Controller retrieves the information that causes the slowness but I am no PC Guru by any stretch of the imagination but I recall reading something that someone stated who was very knowledgeable about these things.
     
  12. CopyCat

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    I agree, that's what hangs on the back of all of our's.
     
  13. seymouru

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    The WD 1TB green drive is on sale today at Newegg for $80, with free shipping. Cheapest I've seen.

    Link
     
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  15. Steve Rhodes

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    Our 750GB (FreeAgentPro) is external and 1TB in internal on our current HR20s. Running 90-95% full most of the time, we've never seen any of slowness you mention above. On the other hand, we do see it dramatically in our brand new about 0% full HR22, which will soon be attaching an eSata to.
     
  16. DaBearsfan

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    My 750GB Seagate FAP died last week. It worked great for 2 years with my HR20 till it croaked. I was think of getting the Antec MX-1 and a Seagate or WD 1.5 TB drive to replace it. I was also thinking of maybe getting a 2 TB drive.

    My question is the Antec MX-1 says it will support up to a 1.5 TB drive. Anyone know for sure if it will work with a 2TB Drive?
     
  17. Rich

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    It will work with the WD 2TB drive. Apparently the Antec enclosure will work with anything.

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  18. Rich

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    I saw it on several 750 FAPs. Perhaps you reset yours periodically? That does refresh the HRs.

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  19. DaBearsfan

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    Thats what I thought also. I appreciate the assistance!!
     
  20. Tom Robertson

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    I think the Antec will work with any single dish, but required a firmware upgrade to handle the new, larger drives for mirroring or concatenation.
     

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