3 versions of the 222

Discussion in 'ViP211(411)/211K/222 Support Forum' started by satcrazy, Jan 17, 2021.

  1. satcrazy

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    I was told today that there are three versions of the 222 by a CSR.

    222K [first one]

    straight 222 [ no letter]

    and the 222Z

    He said all three have the exact same features.

    I've owned mine for many years, and have only been aware of the vip222K.

    I need clarification on this information.

    I'm sure some of the LONG time members know the answer.

    What say you?

    THANKS!
     
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  3. harsh

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    Is this idle curiosity or are you in the market for a ViP222?

    I ask because I hear a rumor that DISH stopped authorizing "new" ViP222 receivers quite some time ago.
     
  4. satcrazy

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  5. satcrazy

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    I've located a vip 222k from someone who cut the cord.
    I've been with Dish for over 10 years, ALWAYS had that same receiver.
    Was never offered an option for another version.
    Dish hasn't "offered" a "new" 222K for a long time now, [ as far as I know, because for a while I was looking for "new"]

    So, have you ever heard of "various" versions of this receiver?
     
  6. satcrazy

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    OK,
    Thanks for the link, I see the "straight 222" appears to be silver, but that's all I can access.
    NO back view, and everytime I click features or other links I get ZIP.
    You would think DISH could at least provide a rear view.
    There is absolutely NO VIP222Z listed
     
  7. scooper

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    VIP 222 (no letter) 2 sat tuners, one OTA tuner
    VIP 222K - 2 sat tuners, NO OTA tuners. It did have a slot to put an MT2 OTA tuner module in (2 OTA tuners).
    Both models could provide 2 outputs, 1 HD and one SD. They had a 2 tuner SD RF output.
    I had a VIP 222K with the MT2, have no idea where it is now, although I did find my remotes.

    Never heard of any other VIP 222's
     
  8. harsh

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    The differences are the OTA facilities as you've noted and that the ViP222k lacks the channel 3/4 modulator for TV1 and the S-VHS video output.

    You do understand that DISH probably won't activate that receiver on your account, don't you?

    So again, I ask whether this idle curiosity or you're contemplating acquiring the ViP222k.

    Since you couldn't find an image:

    [​IMG] upload_2021-1-18_14-56-33.png
     
  9. scooper

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    Well actually - the VIP222K DID have a channel 3/4 modulator (in addition to the UHF ones) for use on Output 1. Output 2 was strictly UHF or SD composite A/V. Maybe that was with the MT2.
     
  10. harsh

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    Yes, the TV1 output was incorporated into the optional MT2.
     
  11. satcrazy

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    Thanks for the info, scooper.
    As I expected, another csr who, while polite, is ill-informed.
     
  12. satcrazy

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    Great...
    Thank you for posting the pics,
    I gave Dish the required numbers, and they cleared it If and when I decide to purchase it.
    Spoke with two supervisors who also told me it wouldn't be a problem if I decided to purchase and store, for future use, as long as the numbers matched the account that was closed.

    So, did the "silver"222 have optical audio out as well?

    Hard to tell on the rearview.
     
  13. harsh

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    The CSRs know only what is in the scripts. Customer service isn't designed to be a historical research tool.
     
  14. satcrazy

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    FYI
    I wasn't the one who asked about "various" vip222's.
    That CSR insisted there were 3, OK?
     
  15. harsh

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    It is just above the round S-video connector. It is in between the component stack and the HDMI connector -- very much similar to the ViP222k but higher.
     
  16. Jim5506

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    IIRC the 222 is essentially a 722 without a hard drive.
    The original 222/722 were silver with one OTA tuner built in. (Not really sure about the orig 722 color but my 622 was silver)
    The 222K/722K were black with the port on the rear for the MT2 dual OTA tuner module.
    Of course Dish never allowed the 222's to have an optional USB connected hard drive because that would have made it functionally too close to the 722's which had a DVR fee that the 222's did not have $$$.
     
  17. harsh

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    I question whether you could do three (or four on the K models) streams through USB 2.0.
     
  18. scooper

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    Sure you can. USB2.0 is supposed to be able to do 480Mbps. What might get you into trouble is memory / CPU considerations.
     
  19. harsh

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    Theoretical single datastream maximums aren't anywhere near the same thing as handling multiple video streams.
    That too.
     
  20. James Long

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    At one point $40 and a external powered USB drive would turn most receivers into a DVR. But yes, expecting that age of receiver to be able to handle multiple streams is a stretch on the receivers. As "upgrades" were loaded even receivers designed to be DVRs have had trouble keeping up with the expected workload.
     

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