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3D TV .. what works, what doesn't?

Discussion in 'DIRECTV General Discussion' started by Doug Brott, Jun 11, 2010.

  1. DodgerKing

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    So telling them I want to upgrade to 3D will not guarantee me an HR24. Damn. They offered me an upgrade to another HR2x and a H2x for $50 total. I did not want to pay $50 to what I consider is a downgrade from my HR20 to get a 21, 22, or 23.
     
  2. sigma1914

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    Ask if you can buy a HR24 and be credited.
     
  3. DodgerKing

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    Good idea. I'll do that...
     
  4. nc88keyz

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    I did just that.... about 2 weeks ago.

    i called for the following, upgrades for two mits dps .

    10 years, 6 HR20s on the account.

    I managed with very little hassle to get

    HR21 (refurb) free
    AM21 free
    $125 credit to purchase an HR24 that was 179.99 - 30% bing cashback on overstock.
    and another AM21 for the HR24 from overstock.
    No renewal required.

    A few hickups.
    directv system doesnt know that a 3d reciever without HD locals needs an AM21. When keyed this way the system reverts to an HR20, which is why i got an extra DVR that i did not need. and did NOT get the other AM21. (because the HR20 cancells it out.

    I tryed to tak to someone in operations, IT to explain that their system is defaulting to an HR20 when they select OTA market....it doesnt recognize that 3D and OTA market equals HR21+ and AM21.

    Confusing stuff..

    I have my Emitter , 4pair samsung glasses, 3da1 converter, and and HTPC...but need to upgrade my vid card or wait patiently for nvidia next gen cards with bitstreaming and or driver upgrade for my ATI 5770 which i like a whole lot for my HTPC>

    3D is closer. Glasses are in route and so is HR24 from overstock...Slowly but surely.

    Directv was very understanding of my needs but there are some glitches in the processing system apparently....I had them confirm everything twice actually on two different calls. AND there are still some CSRs that don't remember even if they have been told that the HR20 will not do 3-D. They always love it when i correct them politely.

    Overall a positive experience though.
     
  5. Bill Broderick

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    Did anyone ever figure out what this problem was? I'm getting the same message on all three of my HD DVR's (2 HR21's and 1 HR-20). I first get the 3D hardware not connected, do you want to record anyway message. Then, after clicking on record, I get the "Your receiver is not authorized to record this program" message.

    I've been on the phone with DirecTV for about 45 minutes now. They don't know why I'm getting this message and don't know how to fix it.

    Oddly enough, if I setup a recording via DirecTV.com, the recording works.
     
  6. RAD

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    Just go ahead and say yes to both messages, it does record. I think it's just because the STB has the channels grayed out since you don't have them connected to a 3D TV, which is how they get ungrayed out.
     
  7. Bill Broderick

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    I don't get an option on the second message. It just has an "OK" bubble to click on. Then it doesn't record.
     
  8. RAD

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    Are you trying to do that for a program that's currently being shown? From what I've seen you can't do a record for a current program, if you select a showing in the future it works.
     
  9. Bill Broderick

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    It looks like you are correct. I just tried recording a show that starts at 8pm and the record icon popped up for that show.

    I was still on the phone with DirecTV when I tried this and told the tech CSR about this bug. Oddly, enough, I just went back to Directv.com and tried recording the current program and the record icon popped up for that show as well.

    So, at least there is a current work around for recording a show that's already in progress.

    Thanks.
     
  10. RAD

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    I have a HR24-500 connected to a Mits WD-73735 via a Mits 3DC-1000 3D converter. 3D content plays fine, except when I use a DVR control to FF/REW or the 30sec skip/skip back functions. When the HR24 gets done doing the command it looks like the HR24 and the Mits converter/TV lose sync or something, and I get a black screen for a number of seconds.

    I tried connecting a HDMI1.4 AVR in the signal path and looking at the front panel display it shows that it's losing the audio signal format, doesn't know if it's DD5.1/2.0 or anything.

    Are others seeing anything different or are other Mits folks also seeing something like this?
     
  11. GregLee

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    Okay -- not perfectly. Pause works fine, and Skip forward/back (with 30skip set on) do, too, except that when the Progress bar is shown, 3d effect ceases (but it comes back when the Progress bar is turned off). FF and Rewind sort of work: the display only shows a few frames -- not enough to depict motion -- and there is no 3d effect until normal play resumes.

    I have a Pioneer vsx-1020-k between my HR24-500 and my Samsung pn58c8000 TV. I haven't noticed any problems with the sound.
     
  12. RAD

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    Greg, thanks for the response. FYI, DirecTV has said that whenever they need to overlay any UI graphics on the screen it will fall back to 2D mode so that's normal.
     
  13. rrrick8

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    I've been eying this unit (Pioneer VSX-1020-K) as a replacement for my Sony AVR (No HDMI connection).
    Greg, by chance have you played any multichannel SACD or DVD-A 5.1 thru it? One thing I loved about my Sony was the separation in the speakers on SACD & DVD-A 5.1.

    If it handles the 3D equation nicely, as you stated it does, the multichannel music formats handling part is the only part keeping me from pulling the trigger.
     
  14. RAD

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    FYI, I tried the 1020 and returned it. When I had it hooked up the 3D channels in my HR24 kept dropping into unsubscribed status. I'd reboot the HR24, they'd come back for a little while and then drop out again. Also, before the 1020 was put into the signal path the HR24 said that it supported a bunch of resolutions for 3D, including 1080p/24, 1080p/30 and 1080p/60, when it was in the stream all it reported was 1080i. I'm trying a Denon AVR-891 now, so far so good.
     
  15. rrrick8

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    Hmmm. Anyone else have a similar problem?
    The Denon is twice the cost of the Pioneer. :(
     
  16. GregLee

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    No, I haven't.

    My HR24-500 does report that the TV is only capable of 1080i in 3d, normally. Sometimes, it has listed a whole bunch of 3d resolutions available, though. I don't know whether that's a problem, and if it is, I don't know that it's a problem with the vsx-1020. The only things I have to play through the HR24 are on channel n3D, or were downloaded by VOD, and they play in 3d okay. (While they are playing, the TV reports they are in 1080i/60.)
     
  17. RAD

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    I have a HR24-500 connected via a Mits 3DC-100 to a Mits WD-73735. Whenever I use a DVR function like 30skip, FF/REW, skip back, the TV can take up to 10 seconds before the picture returns. For the heck of it I swapped out the HR24 for a HR23 and played back the same content and it works just fine, no problems at all. Anyone else with a HR24 seeing any issues when in 3D mode?
     
  18. rrrick8

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    No problem like that using my HR24-500.
    All trick play functions work great and exit instantaneously. (On NR).
     
  19. teachsac

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    No problems here. Play 1080p/24 BD titles just fine. No problem with D*, either.

    S~
     
  20. rrrick8

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    How about you? Played any multichannel SACD or DVD-A through it?
     

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